Ninjas are not in a good place right now for savage raiding. Currently, Elysium and Lucretzia do not run nins because their dps output is lower than mnks and far below drgs at around 200 dps. There are a few problems with the class that are only exaggerated with the release of heavensward. First, the potencies of the class is below mnks and drgs which means the overall dps is lower. Second, the effect/utility of skills given to nins during heavensward is a lot less compared to mnks and drgs, both of which have more methods to not only deal greater dps than their 2.0 counterparts but also being able to sustain damage for a longer time due to more tp regeneration. Lastly, mudra lag is terrible right now which is resulting in more players having to use Fuma over Raiton in their rotations to prevent clipping. This results in lower dps due to the potency of Raiton being higher than Fuma.