Required rank on all gear

[BruceyBruceyBangBang]

If you're going to wear high ranked gear 15 ranks or more below the optimal, hell... could even say 8-10 ranks below, you might as well just be naked. You are the noob who worries more about looking awesome than about full stat benefits.

If you're technically able to wear R50 gear at R1, there is a problem with that. That gives players (and I'm using this term just because I cannot figure out a word for you people) less reason to actually play the game as it's intended to be played when all you're worrying about is the look of your character. Now, to get the look you'll have to level up and not treat the game like it's a freakin chat room with HD graphics.

This helps out so many issues that some of you are too blindly selfish to see. Now DoH classes can actually make cash to support their grinding and progression though their ranks. This is on top of the list on why this change is great. Secondly, we can easily identify the players who actually put in work with their ranks. I know many people who just stand around town, get gil from god knows where because I never see them do a thing to earn it, and show off what they acquired on their low ranked character. It's rather obnoxious.

If you are against this system for your own selfish reasons and refuse to see the problems with letting anyone wear basically anything craftable then you're in the wrong mindset. It's not about you and your feelings getting hurt because something materialistic was taken away from you. It's something much more than that and for the better. Get over it.

[PrettyPrincess]

AKA No more Barbie Dress Up!!!!

Exactly. That's what Second Life is for.

[Viridiana]

Ok a bit off topic but I did something like this in XI. Gear was so expensive then that one day I got a Pyro robe from a chest drop while in a party. I had nothing else to wear, because I couldn't wear much else (that wasn't expensive or R/E and unobtainable alone)I wore this into my 60's as a red mage.

People are going to do this regardless of a system with optimal/restricted gear because it revolves almost exclusively around the economy and ease of gaining new gear.

Optimal Rank system had such potential! To have a "Full set" bonus ontop of the already 'optimal' rank, that would have been something to see! Especially with the Harlequin set, imagine the bonus on that, it could easily outstrip crafted gear while still being suitable to interchange with craftables.

If they restrict this too to class like I suspect they will I'll be severely disappointed with yet another 'easy way out' tactic by team Yoshida. It's lazy, and like others have said before it has very little if at all any benefit in the long run.
Along with what I've said before about switching classes and blinking nude to repair an item, and having to put all your gear on again with either macro or by hand, how stupid is that? I can stand it now because for lancer at least it's only 2 items, hand and body, which are easily replaced. But still, if it were for every single item I'd probably go insane.

Granted. All that's really changing is which direction you go sub-optimal in. As it stands, everyone grabs mid-rank gear for their low classes and lives with the fact that they don't get full stats. After the changes, it'll be people running around in lowbie gear for longer. Functionally, it's not much different.

[Mikita]

I guess I'll just play R1-30 on any new classes naked cause this is going to be too much of a pain to deal with otherwise.

That's what I was thinking. We'll probably start seeing a lot of people running around in their underwear again.

Does Square Enix historically always go so completely overboard with changes?

This is how I now imagine many of their meetings:
Person A: We should probably look at revising this. Some people are complaining on the forums.
Person Y: Just get rid of it.

[Oscillate_Wildly]

LOOOOOOL Jesus.
You think so?
Well golly Brucey, then why ever for are they changing the recipes?!

That argument has so many holes it's ridiculous particularly with recipe changes coming in the NEXT PATCH.
If they may as well be naked, boost the penalties.
Or you know, let people do what they want to do. This game was created on the premiss of "play how you like!" not "This is fast becoming XI-2!"
I don't see how we're being 'selfish' as gear is becoming steadily easier to make especially lower leveled gear.


The difference between Optimal rank and Required rank is this:
One system allows you to wear gear from different classes/ranks, the other does not.

And I'm willing to bet optimal class will vanish shortly after.

[PrettyPrincess]

And I'm willing to bet optimal class will vanish shortly after.

As it should

[Oscillate_Wildly]

As it should

Then immediately after we need Scorpion Harnesses and elemental staves.
If they're not in the same patch I'm going to rage quit.

[Cairdeas]

LOOOOOOL Jesus.
You think so?
Well golly Brucey, then why ever for are they changing the recipes?!

That argument has so many holes it's ridiculous particularly with recipe changes coming in the NEXT PATCH.
If they may as well be naked, boost the penalties.
Or you know, let people do what they want to do. This game was created on the premiss of "play how you like!" not "This is fast becoming XI-2!"
I don't see how we're being 'selfish' as gear is becoming steadily easier to make especially lower leveled gear.


The difference between Optimal rank and Required rank is this:
One system allows you to wear gear from different classes/ranks, the other does not.

And I'm willing to bet optimal class will vanish shortly after.

It'll be the next Dev Post most likely :/

It really is sad that now if we change class for a few minutes we'll be forced to be completely naked. Or if were going back and forth between crafting classes we'll have to carry tons of equipment.

Might as well Restrict us to changing class in a Mog house with saved outfit loadouts.

[PrettyPrincess]

Then immediately after we need Scorpion Harnesses and elemental staves.
If they're not in the same patch I'm going to rage quit.

You wont be missed

[Viridiana]

If you're going to wear high ranked gear 15 ranks or more below the optimal, hell... could even say 8-10 ranks below, you might as well just be naked. You are the noob who worries more about looking awesome than about full stat benefits.

That's wrong in so many different ways. Go start a new character as any DoW class. I guarantee you that all of their weapons will have almost identical stats at rank 1. The same is true of armor, I'm certain. The fact is, the way it's set up now, rank 50 gear is as good or better than actual optimal rank gear in a number of cases, and that doesn't even take into account the stats on the higher rank gear such as +STR and +DEX.

Should it be that way? No, but there are, I feel, better solutions.