I miss the sense of adventure and danger in MMOs.

[gzuscry]

I play the Souls series for hundreds of hours with no cheating looking stuff up. And there is not a lot of quest. What holds my attention is the world and atmosphere itself. That which requires thought and dedication feels more fulfilling. So if I don't have to think about avoiding dangers or can sneak/invis past them. Then yes, don't bother making the world dangerous.

This so called danger in ffxiv or wow in only based around stats your gear have. Give the ffixiv combat style like in souls series and you have truly immersive fights. Then clearing some savage raid in nothing but loincloth would hold achievment, but these days raids have nothing to offer that requires individual skill its all about team rope jump, what stats your gear have etc. How can ppl dont understand that actual dodging as in rolling trhough attack or parrying attack with actual button presses and not rng based occurance is what todays mmorpg need.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Most people can't even dodge telegraphed AOEs, so what makes you think a Souls styled dodge mechanic would do anything?

[Sandpark]

You don't really dodge here though just step out of the way. I imagine most people can't dodge due to lag. Frontal, reverse, or conal would be easy to dodge with a dodge mechanic barring lag not interfering. For area wide effect, not so much.

[Velhart]

You don't really dodge here though just step out of the way. I imagine most people can't dodge due to lag. Frontal, reverse, or conal would be easy to dodge with a dodge mechanic barring lag not interfering. For area wide effect, not so much.

And you think Dark Soul's dodging system would work with lag? Its hard enough to dodge as a single player game.

[Delily]

And you think Dark Soul's dodging system would work with lag? Its hard enough to dodge as a single player game.

Dark Souls is honestly a bad choice to use as a comparison. The core design of that game is death; the harsh environment and scare resources work since the designers intend for you to die a lot. Learn by dying. That works great in an single player game since you can go at your own pace, your choices impact only you, and there is no (false) sense of needing to keep up. Try to scale that to an MMO, and we know the results. Savage Coil and Savage Alex aren't run by the majority of players.

[Sandpark]

And you think Dark Soul's dodging system would work with lag? Its hard enough to dodge as a single player game.

I didn't recommend Dark Souls mechanic. I just said we don't have one here. Other mmos have a dodge mechanic and it works fine for me there.

[gzuscry]

Most people can't even dodge telegraphed AOEs, so what makes you think a Souls styled dodge mechanic would do anything?

You underestimate the clutter of UI and sound in mmos, most simple skill nowdays is acompanied with overthetop graphical glow&shine and earblowing impact sound. To me EX primal fights are rainbow feast, devs somehow got into their heads that the more blinding the skill the more awsome it is. How con you notice those telegraphed skill when there is 8 players hissing and executing 'half the screen taken with special effect' skills, they have to keep their track of their UI to time those combos keep track of HP/MP bar. We have such a graphical chaos going on now, imagine what will it be in next expansion, you know they have to add new skills with even more impact, so they are more powerfull. 2 expansion later I cant even see the boss even if he as big as skyscraper, while shooting some heavy arrow buffed through the rough with some ballad or whateva...

[Catwho]

I had that wonderful sense of adventurer when HW first came out and I hadn't unlocked the maps or flying yet. It's a great feeling. Unfortunately, SE can't release 9 brand new zones like that every week, so I enjoyed it for the ephemeral treat that it was.

[Noxifer]

I can definitely agree with this. Odin spawned on top of me and some friends once while we were spiritbonding in Urth's Gift. The remainder of our lives was very short and very memorable, that's for sure. xD

That reminds me of this one time when me and my flatmate were still levelling our characters. We were doing all those level 40-ish side-quests in Central Coerthas, and were talking to the NPCs down close to Snowcloak... And Behemoth spawned. Right on top of us. I'd finished talking to mine, and was standing near that tiny fishing hole to the side, but my flatmate was literally under Behemoth's belly! XD

Scared shitless, we were XD But fortunately, Behemoth doesn't have eyes on his belly, so he didn't see her and we managed to escape without getting caught. But by the twelve... that was scary! XD