The one consistent critic on Heavensward is "too much like ARR"? srsly?

[Rumpelstiltzkin]

As this thread shows apparently some people think grinding a couple of dungeons for tomes is fun and enough. Why improve the game at a higher cost when they have blind fanboyism on their side.

[Stanelis]

I can even say Heavensward added more content to this game than I saw on most X.0 versions of WoW. The new maps are HUGE, the storyline is just as long as the ARR one...

No please, just don't.

[Bishop81]

As this thread shows apparently some people think grinding a couple of dungeons for tomes is fun and enough. Why improve the game at a higher cost when they have blind fanboyism on their side.

The expansion has been out of about a month plus ...

You got several new zones, new Job abilities and the next chapter of the MSQ line.

[Jandor]

The one consistent critic on Heavensward is "too much like ARR"? srsly?

Yah srsly. Done it all before in 2.0, can't be arsed to do it again *shrug*.
Is what it is I suppose, everyone gets bored eventually. Going to hang around for 3.1 but unless it's great I'll probably disappear after that.

No hard feelings, I had a great time. Would recommend FFXIV to my friends.

[Bishop81]

Yah srsly. Done it all before in 2.0, can't be arsed to do it again *shrug*.
Is what it is I suppose, everyone gets bored eventually. Going to hang around for 3.1 but unless it's great I'll probably disappear after that.

No hard feelings, I had a great time. Would recommend FFXIV to my friends.

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Seriously, what are you expecting?

You can say that about just any game. After 1 hour of GTA V ... I have done it before.

[Jandor]

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Seriously, what are you expecting?

You can say that about just any game. After 1 hour of GTA V ... I have done it before.

I was expecting that initial spark to be reignited. It was while I was leveling and working through the story. Tomestone grinding put it out again though.

This is probably the wrong thread for me anyway, I'm not really critical of 3.0.
I'm bored, it happens with every game eventually. I put something like 250 hours into a game called Warframe then got bored, they've released new maps, new characters, new weapons, revamped melee, added factions, jetpacks and space combat, just a whole bunch of stuff since I got bored and left. I've tried going back a few times but I just can't get back into it. No ones fault, just the way it is.

I'm not going anywhere just yet anyway, planning to hang around doing bits here and there till 3.1ish .

[Onikimaru]

Not as much as people are claiming it does. People just love exaggerating things.

You think so?. When they're designing content they have to keep in mind the dedicated 512mb of memory the playstation 3 has. Imagine if they didn't?

[Laerune]

What this game needs is more ways to obtain the currency needed to obtain a armour. Right now we have dungeons/raids which can be boring after few runs (I can not blame some players for wanting to rush it), Hunts which is slow and you need to wait alot of time for them to spawn and PvP which takes ages to enter, because of the GC restriction.

Add new ways where players are not doing the same routine, which does not have a long queue that takes ages and which does not rely on a mob to spawn. I think Yoshi-P and the other developers need to take a break from WoW and maybe try out different mmorpgs, like ESO and GW2. Both games might not be perfect, but they nailed exploration and things to do well.

You think so?. When they're designing content they have to keep in mind the dedicated 512mb of memory the playstation 3 has. Imagine if they didn't?

I understand that in Japan the PS3 is still used more then the PS4, but if the PS3 is indeed holding back this game, then I wish they would either give PS3 players their own version and server or end it. I dont want this to be a game where, we think 'what if' had happend. Almost all of my LS/FC members bought a PS4, my little brother has also upgraded his PS3 to a PS4 aswell few months ago. Maybe 3.0 should be the last PS3 expansion.

But this will never happen, aslong as majority of the Japanese players are on the PS3.

[Reinha]

7) crafting specialization, i will be rude, this is the worst of this expansion... this shit try to change the game core mechanic for what reason?
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and i feel you have miss the point, what you talk is feature, what people talk is a format.

for make simple, the game is repeating the same format that we have for years. patch content is the same for long. add secondary activity that have barely impact on the game is not what we want... people want to get more than 2-3 dungeon + 1 raid per patch... they want more activity and more important REPLAYABILITY

I feel like you are contradicting yourself. They changed the format of crafting a little and already people are up in arms. If you people (yes you people, don't count me in) are asking for the core of the game / the format / the gear progression model to change, you are simply asking too much. I don't want it. I like getting points to upgrade my gear, I like doing dungeons and I like linear progression. That is why I pay to play this game. WoW got rid of valor points, didn't make any new dungeons past launch and changed the gearing up process too much. That is why I left that game. I take part in various activities during my play time in FFXIV and also replay old content regularly to get both useful rewards and vanity items. If you don't, that's not the game's fault. That's your fault for playing a game you don't enjoy anymore.

WoW tried to spice things up for veterans by rehashing the leveling experience. It ended up making leveling worse for both veteran and noob, because all those epic questlines and beautiful areas are now forever gone and replaced by a shallow and sped up questing. It also took up development time and the expansion (Cata) fell short on many aspects. Change is not always good.

I'm bored, it happens with every game eventually. I put something like 250 hours into a game called Warframe then got bored, they've released new maps, new characters, new weapons, revamped melee, added factions, jetpacks and space combat, just a whole bunch of stuff since I got bored and left. I've tried going back a few times but I just can't get back into it. No ones fault, just the way it is.

Exactly. People can't expect to feel the excitement of being new forever. They get experience, get better and more efficient and also get used to art and music to the point it doesn't move them anymore. What is a challenging adventure to a new player who is queuing up for a dungeon or trial for the first time, is a quick and monotonous task to get closer to cap for a veteran. Nothing will ever bring the magic back and that's just how the human mind works. You start in a new school/workplace and you are lost and meet new people and see new rooms and hallways constantly, but eventually you know everyone, say quick hellos, focus on your duties most of the time and get annoyed if something/someone comes in the way or slows you down.

[Bishop81]

I was expecting that initial spark to be reignited. It was while I was leveling and working through the story. Tomestone grinding put it out again though.

Can't be helped really. Players will always consume content faster than developers can create it.

This is partly why I have advocated having sandbox elements in MMOs.

In sandboxes, the playground doesn't change to entertain. Playing with others is where the fun comes from - gameplay ideally suited to MMOs.

With sandboxes, players write the story.