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  1. #271
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    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    Aren't there Astro clearing the savages ?
    You're correct, their are ASTs "clearing" A:S and they even started this thread, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stro-in-savage. But clearing content doesn't equal balance. The game has 3 healers and two spot in a full party. If AST can't keep up with the other two they get left behind. All three jobs need to be different in play style but equal in terms of how well the party can complete the content.
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  2. #272
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    Vlady's Avatar
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Balmung
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dyvid View Post
    You're correct, their are ASTs "clearing" A:S and they even started this thread, http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...stro-in-savage. But clearing content doesn't equal balance. The game has 3 healers and two spot in a full party. If AST can't keep up with the other two they get left behind. All three jobs need to be different in play style but equal in terms of how well the party can complete the content.
    How do Astrologians not compete with the other two jobs? We buff other party members via our cards and our healing is only 2-3% below the other two healers. Nocturnal has advantages over the scholar along with still stronger single target heals and being able to shield/heal instantly for a 500 potency buffer/heal faster then a scholar can adlo unless using tactics. Synastry lines up with tank busters every two rounds giving you more then enough time to coordinate with the other healer to rotate cooldowns accordingly.

    We are stronger aoe healers then scholar and weaker single target healers then white mage. We do our jobs well on whatever field we are employed. If SE will let us have a cooldown to swap stances or temporarily stance dance being able to put up aspect duial helios along with turning around and shielding both tanks and emergency dps about to die with a 500 potency instant cast buffer we are going to be gold. Even without stance dances noc stance alone has saved several people in A1 and A2 when adds are hitting on dps.
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    Last edited by Vlady; 07-29-2015 at 06:39 AM.

  3. #273
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    chumsy's Avatar
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    Hennessy Cognac
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    Malboro
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Noira View Post
    Aren't there Astro clearing the savages ?
    Besides the point. Any healer can clear the content sure, does it make them equal? no. Its like saying any car can get you to any destination, does that mean all cars are equal? think about it
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  4. #274
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    I think people are confusing things alot now.....let me get this straight now........ AST is perfectly fine with its potency, healing, MP management ........ HOWEVER..... We severely lack Cooldowns that increase our own healing and due to this cause the problems everyone keep screaming about and yes this is what makes us seem like our heals r not great and that our mp management is crap because look at this

    AST healing cooldowns
    =Synastry (fairy for 20 sec)
    =Essential Dignity (lustrate/Tetragrammaton)

    WHM healing Cooldowns
    =Tetragrammaton
    =Assize
    =Divine Seal
    =Benediction


    Sch healing cooldowns
    =Indomitability
    =Emergency Tactics
    =Dissipation
    =Lustrate
    =Whispering Dawn
    =Rouse (increase pet healing)
    =Fey Illumination

    This are healing cooldowns only.... this is without skills that reduce damage taken etc in all AST is the weakest link

    Other cooldowns (WHM/SCH)
    =Virus
    =Eye for an Eye
    =Sacred Soil/ Asylum
    =Fey Covenant/Fey Wind

    To me sch need a slap in the face they got way too much

    i do not add lightspeed as it is NOT a healing cooldown it is for movement only it does not increase ur healing at all just helps with mp slightly and allows u to cast on the move... how ever it does not remove ur 2.XX recast time within 10 sec u can only get 4 casts of sooo u cannot spam u heals whist this buff is active..... with or without this buff u can cast 4 heals regardless just with buff u can do it whilst moving

    example
    No lightspeed buff = stand casting for 10 sec = 4 casts within 10 sec
    With buff = Run around casting for 10 sec = 4 cast within 10 sec

    All this skill does is remove the stand still requirement for ur spells for 10 seconds and reduce there mp cost and that is all.... dont believe me log in ur ast and use this skill
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    Last edited by Yhisa; 07-29-2015 at 10:25 AM.

  5. #275
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Very well put Yhisa.
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  6. #276
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Vlady View Post
    Very well put Yhisa.
    why thank you, it about time someone told the truth and show the reasons aswell
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  7. #277
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    Fomortis Vulen
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    Astrologian Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    why thank you, it about time someone told the truth and show the reasons aswell
    I begrudgingly agree that you are right in regards to our cooldown line up. Our healing is fine but having two cooldowns with one being a stun which makes no sense to me and the other a stationary we cannot move cooldown is utterly useless outside of rp emotes. My issue is people want to change the job and duirnal and noc stances.
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    Last edited by Vlady; 07-29-2015 at 11:21 AM.

  8. #278
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    Tint's Avatar
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    Karuru Karu
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    Shiva
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    Fisher Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    WHM healing Cooldowns
    =Tetragrammaton
    =Assize
    =Divine Seal
    =Benediction
    you forgot presence of mind ^^ i think whm's best cd

    and if you count tetra and assize you can count asylum too :x
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  9. #279
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    Yhisa's Avatar
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    Susubi Subi
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    Phoenix
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tint View Post
    you forgot presence of mind ^^ i think whm's best cd
    i didnt add presence of mind because it is just like Lightspeed just without the movement part it just reduce ur cast speed by a marjin like i said those was healing cooldowns that increase HEALING ,,, and there is a section at the bottem with other cooldown which i listed already u didnt read very far did u lmao
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    Last edited by Yhisa; 07-29-2015 at 11:38 AM.

  10. #280
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    Cupcakesu's Avatar
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    Tomoyo Nellu
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    Sargatanas
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    Astrologian Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Yhisa View Post
    i didnt add presence of mind because it is just like Lightspeed just without the movement part it just reduce ur cast speed by a marjin like i said those was healing cooldowns that increase HEALING ,,, and there is a section at the bottem with other cooldown which i listed already
    Except it's not just like Lightspeed. Presence of Mind also decreases the global cooldown, whereas Lightspeed does not. You get more healing out with Presence of Mind.
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    Last edited by Cupcakesu; 07-29-2015 at 01:03 PM.

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