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    Adol Giantbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    also power slash gets darkside damage bonus always and is 150/220/300 potency as opposed to paladin's 150/200/260 combo which only gets FoF bonus 33% of the time (and you have to sacrifice fitting in a second goring blade if you chose to open with it).

    also circle of scron's aggro modifier combined with rage of halone (4400 + 900 = 5300) still can't match power slash dark arts + salted earth (6315 + 1207 = 7522 potency).

    it's a pretty blatantly worse situation.
    Sort of. You're only looking at that action alone and not the effects beyond that one combo. Sword Oath's extra potency keeps going while you're using RoH. DRK's mana regen goes negative while they're doing a PS combo, and it goes very heavily negative with DA + PS. For the DRK, this means losing out on damage from extra DA + SE later. For the PLD that does a RoH combo over a RA combo, they only lose the 80 potency up front. It doesn't cause any further loss of damage after the fact.
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    Utsuho Reiuji
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    Quote Originally Posted by Giantbane View Post
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    ok seeing as how according to both your statements and your lodestone profile you haven't played paladin @ sixty, you clearly don't realize the fatal flaw with your argument: it's pretty much impossible to hold aggro in sword oats without spamming rage of halone a plethora of times per encounter.

    dark knight can get away with doing just one or two dark arts power slash combos for the entire fight (i've healed dark knights, i've seen them do it with monks and dragoons in the party), as a paladin main tank and one who's healed multiple paladins i can tell you for a fact that it's incredibly difficult to hold aggro in sword oats without using rage of halone at least 5 times in a boss fight, if not more depending on how competent the DPS in my party is.

    and i'm in full str accessories with a i180 weapon and a bit of alex stuff. and I can't hold aggro against good i170 DPS without halone spam if im in sword oats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nyttyn View Post
    it's incredibly difficult to hold aggro in sword oats without using rage of halone at least 5 times in a boss fight, if not more depending on how competent the DPS in my party is.
    You don't have to play a PLD at 60 to know the potency of attacks.

    I think you misunderstand my argument. What I'm saying is that if a PLD needs to do RoH 6 times and a DRK only needs to do DA + PS twice to hold agro outside of tank stance, then that's fair because they lose about the same amount of damage in both circumstances.
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