Since protect/stoneskin are now baseline...

[Buff_Archer]

I guess the good thing about Disable is with Virus, someone else can cast it at a really stupid time (some people even use it as part of an opener in a long duration fight where the really really big hits come further into the fight than the first few seconds, and reuse whenever it comes off cooldown). "/p Casting Eye for Eye on <tt>/Virus on <t>!/Hey look at meeee!" So at least there is that, the healer gets to decide what ability to apply the damage reduction to, which is normally one of those long slow cast bar ones.

[technole]

Virus and E4E are magnitudes better than Disable. Disable is only good for one attack, whereas Virus and E4E mitigate for a period of time.

However disable can be used in-lieu, or even on-top of virus or even the anti-body if there is an arcanist in the party. It's really meant for cast bar tank busters. Like Hypercompressed Plasma (Alex Savage 1).

[Elim]

Well that's a surprise... of all things there hasn't been an outcry on WHM Stoneskin nerf, yet about every single other change has been discussed for every other other job/class. I even went over to the Healer Forums and went as far back as beginning of June. Nothing. I don't play WHM, and the people I do know that play WHM never even mentioned this. What a covert nerf.

I wouldn't call it a ninja nerf. It was in the patch notes, and if I recall correctly a dev posted about it before it happened. All the WHMs I know (in game) didn't care. With all the new skills they got WHMs are beast right now. They're in a really good place.

[LineageRazor]

I'd say it's a mistake to call that 10% Stoneskin worthless, either. A shield is a shield, and it's great for shoring up weakened characters, preparing for big hits, and so on and so forth. The replacement trait WHM got makes it even easier to use as a preventative measure. The loss of that 8% is saddening, but Stoneskin is still worth casting - as should be obvious, as SCH and PLD frequently made good use of it in spite of it being the "weak" version.

[Risvertasashi]

I wouldn't call it a ninja nerf. It was in the patch notes, and if I recall correctly a dev posted about it before it happened. All the WHMs I know (in game) didn't care. With all the new skills they got WHMs are beast right now. They're in a really good place.

It wasn't in the pre-release patchnotes, only the full ones. AFAIK no dev ever posted on that (I watch the tracker pretty closely, although it's not impossible I missed it).

It was pretty ninja. We knew the protect change was coming and that got discussed a lot. Stoneskin nerf was a happy little present from SE we found just before the servers came back up.

[technole]

I actually get a bit annoyed when SCHs use stoneskin in casual content and barely touch Adlo for some reason. There is only limited utility for them to use SS. My favorite is when you have two healers scrambling to cast pre-pull in instances like Bismarck EX. It's a waste, unless you put up Succor too as they all will break once the island gets hit in the pull. To negate what? Chump change damage. Only the tanks end up keeping them intact so why bother.

I was running WAR in the vault the other day and this one just kept using SS on every pull. I'm like is this a WHM trapped in a SCH body or something? It was rare to see an Adlo. It wasn't needed either since I use cooldowns often, but if it gives someone a peace of mind.

[Kolaina]

barely touch Adlo for some reason.

where my adlos at? seriously lately i find this is a trend of spam physick, lustrate but never adlos =[

[Noxifer]

of all things there hasn't been an outcry on WHM Stoneskin nerf

Well, it kinda gets upstaged by the Holy nerf, IMO ^_~

I guess the good thing about Disable is with Virus, someone else can cast it at a really stupid time

I think my pet peeve is when you have WHM/BLM using Virus on bosses who primarily do magic damage... when there's a SCH/SMN in the party -_-

This said, I don't think you guys want Stoneskin II made available to other healers. You'd be giving up one of your cross class slots to get it (remember that Stoneskin II is a separate skill).

Well, for me it wouldn't be that big an issue to exchange Aero for SSII *shrugs*

(As a whole, I wish we had more cross class skills to pick from... My fifth cross class for SMN was, for a long time, Triangulate. Just because I saw about as much point to that as to most other alternatives I had.)

[Vrankyl]

where my adlos at? seriously lately i find this is a trend of spam physick, lustrate but never adlos =[

If that is the case then they are bad. I adlo before each fight and put it back on as often as my mp allows. I only ever use lust when things are real bad, otherwise my big heal is emergency tactics adlo because of the cast time. (Then again using a swiftcast for that and getting a crit while healing a WAR is op as hell, 9.5k heals ftw)

[Khyan]

A few WHM abilities got nerfed, but they're far outweighed by the tools we were given in HW. WHM is extremely strong right now even with Stoneskin being completely useless.

of course Stoneskin 10% on war with 22k hp+ is totally useless.