Since protect/stoneskin are now baseline...

[Minorinz]

I think people missing the point here. Have you seen the hp gain on the tanks with 3.0? That stoneskin trait on whm is quite OP with 21k HP tanks, so if they give that back then pls give lustrate back it's 25% heal because that's even more OP. Super virus on the other hand isn't as OP and has a long CD thanks to antibodies.

[Culfinrandir]

Please don't forget that there are still 2.x players out there. It's bad enough that their stoneskin got nerfed but if it was removed that would be terrible. It might not be as useful for us at i200+ but at i40 it's still darn excellent.

The developers are going to be extra careful going forward that any changes for 3.x & 4.x players don't completely imbalance, or ruin, the game for 2.x. It's highly unlikely they will retire 2.x as it's an essential storyline so won't implement "instant lvl50" akin to other MMOs.

[MysteryNotes]

I think people missing the point here. Have you seen the hp gain on the tanks with 3.0? That stoneskin trait on whm is quite OP with 21k HP tanks, so if they give that back then pls give lustrate back it's 25% heal because that's even more OP. Super virus on the other hand isn't as OP and has a long CD thanks to antibodies.

The monster damage scaled with our health increase too, don't forget. I suppose if you're using stoneskin in non level synced lvl 50 duties it might be worth it? But in that case you're going to faceroll the content anyway.

[Kiara1]

You DO realize super virus comes from SCH/SMN...Right?

You DO realise ast cant cross class virus?

[Felis]

What we should really be complaining about is why the heck the other two healers can't cross-class Stoneskin II.

Added to game to make buffing pre-fights easier; given to WHM because of traits.

Remove WHM 18% trait.

Stoneskin II still WHM only.

Just why?

Because Stoneskin II absorb 18% of the max HP as damage, not only 10% (or my skill info text is wrong). The stronger skill to the original class, the weaker skill to the other classes.

[ruskie]

Because Stoneskin II absorb 18% of the max HP as damage, not only 10% (or my skill info text is wrong). The stronger skill to the original class, the weaker skill to the other classes.

You missed the update then. All stoneskins are now 10%.

[Twilite]

Well that's a surprise... of all things there hasn't been an outcry on WHM Stoneskin nerf, yet about every single other change has been discussed for every other other job/class. I even went over to the Healer Forums and went as far back as beginning of June. Nothing. I don't play WHM, and the people I do know that play WHM never even mentioned this. What a covert nerf.

Because stoneskin's change wasn't detrimental to the job's ability to perform its primary role, which is healing.

Unfortunately, from what I've seen from at least one AST - it forces them to cast it more often.

[Drakolos]

They already justified that with the bad scaling of Eos heal at lv60 from SCH, which heals now ~35% less compared to 2.x. So both got nerfed and no reason to give WHM super virus. And the Eos nerf weights much more than the 8% of Stonskin imo.

[DragonSlayer45]

Don't Astrologian's have Disable to balance them not being able to use Virus/ACN skills?

[Lyrinn]

Don't Astrologian's have Disable to balance them not being able to use Virus/ACN skills?

Virus and E4E are magnitudes better than Disable. Disable is only good for one attack, whereas Virus and E4E mitigate for a period of time.