Since protect/stoneskin are now baseline...

[saber_alter]

There's a bit more discussion about it on the Japanese Healer forum. They also managed to compact all of their 'holy crap AST sucks' into one big thread.

they do that.

JP is a lot tidier than us americans.

[Renault]

Would everyone getting Super Virus just make AST even less likely to be brought along?

You DO realize super virus comes from SCH/SMN...Right?

[Selli]

What we should really be complaining about is why the heck the other two healers can't cross-class Stoneskin II.

Added to game to make buffing pre-fights easier; given to WHM because of traits.

Remove WHM 18% trait.

Stoneskin II still WHM only.

Just why?

[Buff_Archer]

Yeah agreed, esp since SS2 was said to be a QoL thing... Ok so where's our QoL when there's no WHM present (or worse, a WHM who doesn't seem to realize they have SS2 and they SS everybody one at a time but you know if you say anything ppl will just get all defensive about it) and we have to cast one person at a time. I just do tanks, healers, and if there's time, casters to help prevent spell interruption. I have no more room for additional cross class skills on SCH but SS could be one skill to do party AOE if out of combat, and single target if caster or person it's cast on is in combat.

[ruskie]

They should add SS2 to all healers as their own qol skill not even bother with cross classing it.

[Lemuria]

They should add SS2 to all healers as their own qol skill not even bother with cross classing it.

No, they should just give White Mage's their graniteskin back instead of this absolutely useless speed trait that no one cares about. There's been plenty of people complaining about the SS changes before now, but they've been drowned out with all the other "my job is ruined" posts.

Right now, Stoneskin isn't really worth the MP cost. Only worth casting as a preventative before a fight and nothing else. Previously it at least had the advantage of at least being more useful in certain instances.

[ruskie]

No, they should just give White Mage's their graniteskin back instead of this absolutely useless speed trait that no one cares about. There's been plenty of people complaining about the SS changes before now, but they've been drowned out with all the other "my job is ruined" posts.

Right now, Stoneskin isn't really worth the MP cost. Only worth casting as a preventative before a fight and nothing else. Previously it at least had the advantage of at least being more useful in certain instances.

I wouldn't mind having graniteskin back.

[Bishop81]

Or just make the buffed Graniteskin version default.

While they are at it. Having it at a lower level would be nice. Other healers having to grind CNJ to Lv 34 is a bit much IMHO.

[Eul]

No, Super Virus only exclusive for ACN only, no more.

[Duelle]

Keep in mind Yoshida wanted to remove Stoneskin when they made the transition from 1.0 to 2.0. I sort of see why, and while heal output does seem to outstrip Stoneskin in the middle of a fight it's still fairly useful (granted, I'm a PLD, and I can get out more Stoneskins than I can Clemencies with my MP bar).

This said, I don't think you guys want Stoneskin II made available to other healers. You'd be giving up one of your cross class slots to get it (remember that Stoneskin II is a separate skill).