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    I see nothing wrong with borrowing, copying depends on this situation? If SE wants to borrow or copy stuff, then they need to do it from the mindset of copying or borrowing from the best at certain things.

    I'd look at the Witcher 3 for questing and dialogue options, Guild Wars 2 for dynamic events and specialization, Dark Souls for combat and interconnected worlds, Elder Scrolls Online for the morph system, and upcoming spellweaving system for horizontal progression, etc,etc.

    That said, a skillchain system would do wonders for and bring FFXIV more in line with other FF. They can call it regiment, renkei, whatever they want.

    I empathize with the feeling you had at the original version. Why not as welcoming to the casuals. It had a non instanced or open world vibe going on there that ARR lacked. A comparison of that feeling you describing would be like the original being close to Dragon's Dogma while ARR being more like Diablo 3. Diablo 3 is very fast paced and accessible to modern audience with it's instanced type stuff while Dogma would be not as accessible and without looking stuff up, one would tend to get lost.
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    Last edited by Sandpark; 07-26-2015 at 10:45 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandpark View Post
    That said, a skillchain system would do wonders for and bring FFXIV more in line with other FF. They can call it regiment, renkei, whatever they want.
    A license board?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Felis View Post
    A license board?
    A license board is not what I meant. That would be more like the armoury system with the ability to select skills and traits without them being predetermined.

    No I meant skill chain system like FFXI, FFXIV 1.0, Chrono Trigger, and FF9.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Isz6KW0UQ

    I mean a system where two or more weapon skills work in synergy or combo resulting in a ball of energy that can be bursted by a magic attack.
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    I've been playing wow for 7 years.

    While, sure, a few gameplay/ui elements are the same, that's irrelevant because most of those things are staples in any MMO.

    This is not a WoW clone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chewy2nd View Post
    XIV 1.0 may have been graphically impressive, but artistically and in terms of level design? No

    Which looks more fun to explore?

    This


    or this?
    The first. It looks like a real world. The second looks like a painted panorama. (and not the most artistic either)


    If you want to properly compare by the way, you should show the new coerthas in comparison to the old one. Not old coerthas compared to the hinterlands.

    Quote Originally Posted by Averax View Post
    I've been playing wow for 7 years.

    While, sure, a few gameplay/ui elements are the same, that's irrelevant because most of those things are staples in any MMO.

    This is not a WoW clone.
    Regretably the ui isnt remotely the same. Which is a shame as that is one of the few things WoW does right.
    As for the rest, many aspects of the game are ''cloned'' from WoW. The rest is watered down from 1.0
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tonkra View Post
    do you know that Final Fantasy didnt ever had griffins in its franchise till FF HW? hum how comes?
    Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core



    FF III


    Ala Migho city logo:
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    I like the design of ffxiv just the way it is overall.

    Definately have my beefs about some issues and I do feel ffxiv could vastly improve in areas by copying aspects from other games ie/ housing, glamor tabs, auto party function from Rift(could be handy for hunts/fates etc).... or Void storage from wow...heck what I would give for a couple high heel boots from Tera or Aion etc.....and of course a much improved UI (or let us have addons) BUT in general ...overall..for the most part, I think its very good and covers a few different playstyles which is essential for the subs to stay and remain as large as possible.

    If I was disappointed I would cancel

    I am quite happy it is not like 1.0, I played it quite a bit but it was doomed for good reason.
    Very pleased they revamped it into what it is now.

    Comparing certain aspects of this game to any other game is not a bad thing, but its also kinda pointless, who cares if features are similar or mounts or anything lol If the game - fun then thats all that matters.

    imo all mmos have something that makes them feel fun and unique..but not 1 mmo exists that has it all for me.

    Soooo enjoy each for what it brings to the table, Im glad they all exist.
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    So many opinionated opinions! And factual opinions!! And opinionated facts!!!

    I never played Final Fantasy XIV 1.0. I never played WOW either. I never felt compelled to play either of those, nor would I ever. But I like Final Fantasy XIV: ARR/HW.

    Frankly I don't care if it took ideas from here or there, nor do I understand why you (or anyone else) would! If you enjoy playing it does it really matter!? I mean really, does it? And if you don't, well.... Why are you playing it...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odstarva View Post
    Frankly I don't care if it took ideas from here or there, nor do I understand why you (or anyone else) would! If you enjoy playing it does it really matter!? I mean really, does it? And if you don't, well.... Why are you playing it...?
    The thing is, that it doesnt feel like playing a final Fantasy online game.

    Yes it does have Final Fantasy superficial charactertistics like the jobs and typical FF monsters (besides they are trash mobs) stuffed onto the mechanics of WoW ... but hell even the "Summoner" in FFXIV isnt a summoner like it should be playable in a Final Fantasy Game. It is a WOW Warlock.. a DoT caster with trash summons that look like flying potatoes. Nothing compared to the summoner of FFXI or a summoner like Yuna from FFX. what im trying to say is: Borrowing things etc. from other games okay..
    but for me it went a little too far...

    as in my opinion it doesnt play Final Fantasy'ish. you and me can have fun with FFXIV ARR/HW... but i am questioning how much they copyied from WoW.. ending up being a WoW clone in FF aesthetics.
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    Last edited by Tonkra; 07-26-2015 at 11:14 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeyis View Post
    The first. It looks like a real world. The second looks like a painted panorama. (and not the most artistic either)


    If you want to properly compare by the way, you should show the new coerthas in comparison to the old one. Not old coerthas compared to the hinterlands.



    Regretably the ui isnt remotely the same. Which is a shame as that is one of the few things WoW does right.
    As for the rest, many aspects of the game are ''cloned'' from WoW. The rest is watered down from 1.0
    Dude if pic one looks like real life you need to go on a hike and go outside more. XD Anyways there are key differences between WoW and FF14, I like FF14's spin on theme park mmo more then WoW, in the end my opinion. It has enough FF to be FF but work as an mmo, trying to make an MMO be a single player game almost never works and vice versa. Look at SWToR where the only thing most people play is the story and could careless about the MMO features I mean they get me on only with new expansions and even then months after it released and on sale.
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    Last edited by justinjarjar; 07-26-2015 at 11:17 PM.

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