Did Yoshida went a bit too far by cloning WoW?

[Eye_Gore]

Couldn't any game be considered a clone of one that preceded it in the genre? Especially one that just about was the first to set a standard. Take a FPS game, they are pretty much all the same. I could put on any one of them, pick up a controller and know very quickly what to do. All the controls are similar, items in game are similar, the point of the game is the same. It makes transition easier for people, instead of having to get to know a whole new system, which alot of people won't do, because is not what they are use to, they may just put it down and never play again. When you get a new game that the mechanics, controls, items, leveling etc are familiar to people, they'll keep playing. Tweak some of the things to make it its own, but keep it familiar.

[Tonkra]

take away from the Final Fantasy feel...then I honestly don't know what to say. I have yet to see an actual damn horse in the game (elemental primal horses don't count as a horse. It's a primal elemental horse.

A primal elemental horse isnt a horse huh ok^
and yes it slightly does it unfortunatley (taking away the feel) especially by comparing the atmosphere of 1.25 with that of ARR.
Shiny glowy "My little ponys" arent something that makes it better.

If a snow covered north is a problem

no it isnt about a snowy covered mountain... i could also have post an other environment picture. i meant because of the looks and took a similiar tooking picture of wow, thats being about it.

If there are actual horses in this game please let me know.

Isnt there a "normal" horse in it, i mean like this? ;D
i myself do have it


i myself do have it..^^

Couldn't any game be considered a clone of one that preceded it in the genre?

i understand what you are saying.

But i dont think that WoW was an EQ clone... nor ESO being a wow clone. so yeah ;D

[Gilthas]

i said: for example... and i cant explain a whole game to you if you havent played it..

But I did play them, that's why I know your arguments are pretty meaningless.

[Kathryn]

OP I cannot agree with you more I find the combat in 2.0 complete and utter shite compared to what 1.0 was and its boring me to death, I literally am bored of this game I was never a crafter always an adventurer as I loved to be in 1.0 exploring and fighting monsters who were probably going to kill me.

Yoshi did well by this game but he has gone abit too far with the WoW comparisons as I cannot stand WoW and im slowly beginning to hate this game and its vertical gear progression aswell as my lack of care for the enviroments, You definately get my +1 OP sorry to all you naysayers but this games gone down hill alot.

[Aeyis]

I hope they get more programmers and money to this game so we can have truely big maps like in 1.0(but with less copy paste locations)

Nature likes to copy paste. If you want natural landscapes, then you will need to copy paste to some extend. Its interesting that people use the copy paste argument as a reason tho. I dont think they looked on the current maps; there is plenty of copy pasting in 2.0 and 3.0 as well.

[Elazu]

This forum needs a downvote button.

[Shougun]

Nature likes to copy paste. If you want natural landscapes, then you will need to copy paste to some extend. Its interesting that people use the copy paste argument as a reason tho. I dont think they looked on the current maps; there is plenty of copy pasting in 2.0 and 3.0 as well.

Yeah but it isnt as obvious, well most of it. 1.0 had a number of extremely obvious locations, then some that were well done but you could tell had similar structure. Well done similarities are acceptable but that is not what people think of for 1.0. It wouldn't be such a popular thing to mention if it was done really well.

[Colt47]

What they did is look at the gameplay from WoW, built a battle and communication system similar enough to it that those who are familiar with the game can pick it up, and built their typical Final Fantasy story around it. The game is good, but the issue right now is that they haven't overhauled crafting quite right and end game is probably the worst aspect of the entire title.

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The big issue is they needed to have looked at other titles for effective inventory and gear management. They intended people to turn older armor into materia to be used in newer armor, thus reduce clutter. However, while anyone can make materia, only crafters can put materia into armor. This makes crafting materia invaluable and combat materia of dubious value to most people unless they can justify the effort to find a crafter to put materia into the armor. That and with multiple classes running on the same character, the game sort of pushes people to keep older armor until all classes that use the older armor have been leveled up.

Crafting itself would be okay if they had taken a page from WoW and kept unique milestone recipes at every stage of the crafting. That way people could sell something worthwhile on the Market boards for glamour purposes while leveling up and make money. As it stands, all unique recipes are at end game, which, as time goes on, makes the end game crafted items the only thing worth making, since the turn ins to NPCs for other goods is a static money source. They also made crafts too interdependent for the amount of time required to level each one. This is largely because the only differentiating factor between npc goods and player ones is if the item is HQ so you need to get abilities from multiple crafts to really be effective at it and make some decent items.

So in a nutshell, play if you want to level multiple combat oriented jobs and complete a somewhat good story campaign. The rest needs a heck of a lot of loving to get up to speed and keep people really working at the game between content patches.

[Kathryn]

This forum needs a downvote button.

For posts like these?, I disagree there's far more trolls on these forums who would just downvote everything for the hell of it these days this post needs more damned upvotes as the game is by far lacking in its potential.

[Eye_Gore]

Nature likes to copy paste. If you want natural landscapes, then you will need to copy paste to some extend.

Even Bob Ross had similar looking mountains. That guy was the man, but how much can you make a mountain scape unique, eventually they all look the same.
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