3.05 Crafting Rotation lv 60** Materials / Gear

[Lyrinn]

I have 393 base (without food). You're using Ing2 + Name + Brand. I'm using just RS. The amount of CP we're spending on progress steps is completely different, hence the discrepancy.

[Jade-Nephrite]

I have 393 base (without food). You're using Ing2 + Name + Brand. I'm using just RS. The amount of CP we're spending on progress steps is completely different, hence the discrepancy.

ah, I'm using 71 CP on the Progress steps. I used Rapid Synthesis in the past, but what other Cross-Class skill are you taking out for that? No Careful Synthesis II at all? How many RS gets you to 1436 on lv 60**?

[Lyrinn]

My core skills are CS2, HT, SH2, CZ, RS, ToT, BB, MaM, FS, and Reclaim. That's my list for LTW so all the other crafts usually pack extra goodies like Innovation or Manipulation. Depending on how much progress I get out of MaM, I use 4-5 RS (assuming none fail) and finish with 1-2 CS2 (again, depending on how the initial progress looks). On average, 7 progress steps in exchange for much more flexibility. Whether or not the RNG is worth it is a can of worms I don't want to open so I'll leave it to you to decide. 6 non-RNG progress steps is certainly better but what do you do if you don't get enough ToT procs?

[Jade-Nephrite]

My core skills are CS2, HT, SH2, CZ, RS, ToT, BB, MaM, FS, and Reclaim. That's my list for LTW so all the other crafts usually pack extra goodies like Innovation or Manipulation. Depending on how much progress I get out of MaM, I use 4-5 RS (assuming none fail) and finish with 1-2 CS2 (again, depending on how the initial progress looks). On average, 7 progress steps in exchange for much more flexibility. Whether or not the RNG is worth it is a can of worms I don't want to open so I'll leave it to you to decide. 6 non-RNG progress steps is certainly better but what do you do if you don't get enough ToT procs?

I could never use Reclaim on these Red Script Materials / Gear, 90% in this game means a 50 / 50 chance. If I spend 2 & 1/2 hours gathering Favor Mats, trading in for the Crafter Red Scripts, crafting 2 - 4 Materials and then see "Synthesis Fails" and nothing... I'd start crying I'd rather take the NQ and give it to somebody

[Rath]

The other thing about mm is that is costs you 0 durability. Also, once you figure out how much progress you actually require out of mm, you will realize you do not need them all to finish without adding in an additional step. You have room for a couple fails and a ToT. I used to CZ, but it only takes 1 ToT to recap your CP. I can not even remember the last time I did a mm/ft and did not get at least one ToT proc.

Muscle memory is good, but it still costs you 10 durability, where mm/ft does not. 400-600 progress for free

Example. I did a test ingot and did the following for 100% HQ with all NQ mats. Using HQ nuggets and such this would not even require 11 stacks. 725 craft 734 control 403 cp with food. Had a HT failed, I would have used a PT instead of a ToT. I had not known what I would need to do near the end, so I decided to conserve cp unless a HT failed. Had I realized fishing is not required on these, I would not have done so.
mm
ftx14 1 fail
ToT
CZ
IQ
SH2
RSx4 210 each time 1400 progress
PT
SH2
HT
mm2
HTx2
ToT
CZ
SH2
HTx3
ToT
HT
mm1
SH2
HTx2
GS+inno+BB
CS2

This was my first attempt at these recipes. I am not fully melded yet. I have no materia in oh and only 1 in mh. This was a pretty decent run and I had no bad RNG. The problem is by having HQ mats for these you can guarantee HQ unless you have the absolute worst RNG ever. Since you need 2-4 of these materials for the MH/OH you will likely have an even easier time making those. Then, using those, you will have an easier time making more of these. Even a NQ 2 star OH is better then a melded il140 HQ OH. So that should be your first crafted piece if you are unsure on your luck. But every success makes it easier and easier until these will become trivial to craft.

[Lyrinn]

I could never use Reclaim on these Red Script Materials / Gear, 90% in this game means a 50 / 50 chance. If I spend 2 & 1/2 hours gathering Favor Mats, trading in for the Crafter Red Scripts, crafting 2 - 4 Materials and then see "Synthesis Fails" and nothing... I'd start crying I'd rather take the NQ and give it to somebody

NQ is same stats as HQ i150. In my mind, NQing is the same as throwing away the mats anyways.

[Apyllos]

Not for people looking to glamour some of the better looking armor pieces

[Rath]

NQ is same stats as HQ i150. In my mind, NQing is the same as throwing away the mats anyways.

For the MH yes, OH the NQ stats are higher as they are only il140. Also, I would use reclaim.

[Jade-Nephrite]

So I used the Rapid Synth / Maker's Mark method... 3x Flawless Fails out of 13, Rapid Failed 2x, Hasty Failed 3x, and in the whole dam craft I got 2 "good" conditions I was glad I didn't sub-out Ingenuity II for Reclaim, needed it in the end because I didn't get enough from the Flawless + Rapids to do just a normal Careful Synthesis II. I still made it to 28% with non-trade-in HQ Mats... glad this was just an NQ Astral Silk and not a Blue gear piece.

Edit: Attempted a Griffin Leather with Rapid / Maker's, failed a Rapid, bunch of other RNG nonsense, got to 62% and NQ!
I then went into making my Hidemaster's Apron with just 1 HQ Griffin Leather + 2x NQ Griffin Leather and an NQ Astral Silk ... I used my method Failed 1 Hasty got to 80% and took the chance and now I have my HQ Hidemaster's Apron

[Alexiell]

anyone tried using the lvl 60 specialist skill for increased chance for good conditions? how much does it help? getting those blue scrips for 10 delineations is not worth mentioning compared to the effort it takes to get the mats for 2 star crafts.