IF ya got money

[AnimaS]

You have made half a dozen threads whining about this and all containing the same hyperbole, melodrama and click baiting. Grow up already and stop acting like a petulant child.

Dear 'Snugglebutt" ....... I am 32 years old, and you seem really angry. Go pick whatever poison you are into and use it to calm down. Or take your medication.

[Snugglebutt]

I am 32 years old...

...and yet you act like a five year old throwing his toys out the pram. Your not adding much to discussions about crafting at this stage, your just making click bait style thread titles filled with melodrama, hyperbole and propaganda.

[cearka]

Dear 'Snugglebutt" ....... I am 32 years old, and you seem really angry. Go pick whatever poison you are into and use it to calm down. Or take your medication.

after checking snugglebutts characters in lodestone, I'm not entirely sure he's not just trolling.

[Kenji1134]

after checking snugglebutts characters in lodestone, I'm not entirely sure he's not just trolling.

...Fair point...

Still, there's 5 people in my FC who have most of their crafters at 58+, and both MIN/BTN at 60 w/ gear. 2 of them were dedicated 4 Star Omnicrafters by the end of 2.5. They all say the same thing, they'll gradually get everything up to 60, get HQ cross-class gear, probably meld the guaranteed slots, maybe do 1-2 cheap overmelds to make the current recipes easier to HQ from NQ, and thats it.
Beyond that they all say that they dont have time for Red Scrips.

They are not super rich, I think the richest one we have has 18M. But they, we, never really had to be. We're primarily raiders, and we work during the day. For the most part we craft raid supplies, the occasional set of leveling gear, and for fun, not for money.
Now the fun aspect of it is kind of gone, which is a shame. So we will continue to get our crafters to 60, I've got 3 at 60 atm and MIN, so Im behind the curve, and we will make sub 60 foods, and the old X-pots, and life will go on.

Its not like these changes to crafting progression ruined the game for us, but it is a bit sad that "worthwhile" crafting progression ends shortly after you hit 60. I am sure that soon SE will introduce new foods and pots and so forth that will magically be "required" for raiding and will be 3 star recipes demanding full Red Scrip gear in order to make crafting "relevant again"... but we'll make it through somehow.

[Snugglebutt]

after checking snugglebutts characters in lodestone, I'm not entirely sure he's not just trolling.

...and you would be wrong. Just because my characters on this account are still in the process of grinding levels does not mean I am incapable of listening to my friends who are doing it, reading how it works and understanding the system or unlike some here whom lack common sense.

[AnimaS]

...and you would be wrong. Just because my characters on this account are still in the process of grinding levels does not mean I am incapable of listening to my friends who are doing it, reading how it works and understanding the system or unlike some here whom lack common sense.

for all to see, here is the troll who has no crafts leveled posting this nonsense cheerleading for the scrip system;
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1513237/

here is me:

http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/8074011/ (btw these melds can be copied by all to surpass requirements for 2 star)


I rest my case that this person is merely blathering whatever comes to mind (akin to either a pathologically lying narcissist or, a person doing this for their own amusement aka 'troll')

[Snugglebutt]

for all to see, here is the troll who has no crafts leveled posting this nonsense cheerleading for the scrip system;
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1513237/

Yet again you show your lack of common sense. You link my bard when I have multiple characters and my bard is not my crafter. Your lack of attention to detail and your apparent incompetence is really showing. It is either incompetence or your just continuing your trend of spreading misinformation in order to progress your propaganda just like you have with half the things you have said on the topic. You use fallacies and hyperbole in order to promote your beliefs and your stance.

[PotatoWafflez]

Yet again you show your lack of common sense. You link my bard when I have multiple characters and my bard is not my crafter. Your lack of attention to detail and your apparent incompetence is really showing. It is either incompetence or your just continuing your trend of spreading misinformation in order to progress your propaganda just like you have with half the things you have said on the topic. You use fallacies and hyperbole in order to promote your beliefs and your stance on this topic.

I think his point is still pretty valid though
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1514966/

[Snugglebutt]

I think his point is still pretty valid though
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1514966/

It is no more valid than assuming a person cannot place a square peg in a square slot just because he or she might not have yet put it in. Intelligence and understanding of something is not limited to experience so while I have partial experience in that mine are yet to reach 60, do not assume for one second that I am neither intelligent enough to understand how it works or wise enough to understand the implications. My main issue with the OP and most of the things he says are not limited to the fact he has issues with it but more so in how he is expressing his feelings on those issues through his click bait titles, extreme melodrama and hyperbole plus logical fallacies. Here is an example of a well thought out, reasonable and logical criticism of the system that I read today of which he could do well to learn from as a way of expressing his concerns.