IF ya got money

[Snugglebutt]

for all to see, here is the troll who has no crafts leveled posting this nonsense cheerleading for the scrip system;
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1513237/

Yet again you show your lack of common sense. You link my bard when I have multiple characters and my bard is not my crafter. Your lack of attention to detail and your apparent incompetence is really showing. It is either incompetence or your just continuing your trend of spreading misinformation in order to progress your propaganda just like you have with half the things you have said on the topic. You use fallacies and hyperbole in order to promote your beliefs and your stance.

[PotatoWafflez]

Yet again you show your lack of common sense. You link my bard when I have multiple characters and my bard is not my crafter. Your lack of attention to detail and your apparent incompetence is really showing. It is either incompetence or your just continuing your trend of spreading misinformation in order to progress your propaganda just like you have with half the things you have said on the topic. You use fallacies and hyperbole in order to promote your beliefs and your stance on this topic.

I think his point is still pretty valid though
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1514966/

[Snugglebutt]

I think his point is still pretty valid though
http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...acter/1514966/

It is no more valid than assuming a person cannot place a square peg in a square slot just because he or she might not have yet put it in. Intelligence and understanding of something is not limited to experience so while I have partial experience in that mine are yet to reach 60, do not assume for one second that I am neither intelligent enough to understand how it works or wise enough to understand the implications. My main issue with the OP and most of the things he says are not limited to the fact he has issues with it but more so in how he is expressing his feelings on those issues through his click bait titles, extreme melodrama and hyperbole plus logical fallacies. Here is an example of a well thought out, reasonable and logical criticism of the system that I read today of which he could do well to learn from as a way of expressing his concerns.

[PotatoWafflez]

It is no more valid than assuming a person cannot place a square peg in a square slot just because he or she might not have yet put it in. Intelligence and understanding of something is not limited to experience so while I have partial experience in that mine are yet to reach 60, do not assume for one second that I am neither intelligent enough to understand how it works.

I did not bring your intelligence into question only that he is right in that you have not actually experienced the system in regards to crafting.
You haven't earned blue scripts and you haven't unlocked the ability to earn red scripts, I spent the whole day handing in frozen spirits just to earn my books because it has been such a pain to turn anything else in all week due to the mat requirements; it was neither fun nor rewarding.
Just because something is fine on paper doesn't mean its fine in practice.

But I'm not here to argue with you.

My opinion is the script reward is too low for the mat costs and unless they increase it or add some kind of daily bonus it only benefits those with large amounts of time and gil to amass a stock pile of mats, and screws over the guys who don't have as much time to run around grabbing 15 adamantite ore every time its up.

[Snugglebutt]

My opinion is the script reward is too low for the mat costs and unless they increase it or add some kind of daily bonus it only benefits those with large amounts of time and gil to amass a stock pile of mats, and screws over the guys who don't have as much time to run around grabbing 15 adamantite ore every time its up.

I have never said the system was fine or not in need of some fixing and is not the main issue I have with the OP and his spamming of click bait style hate threads of which I explained earlier.

For example I agree that the cap is a little too low, the cost of materials bought from scripts is a little too high. Certain skills need improving in their importance and use, some stats need further balancing alongside some very minor tweaks to things like favors etc. The price of script gained materials placed on the market board will however balance itself out. All these things are minor and none of them warrant the waving of the end is nigh banner brigade currently infesting these forums. I even gave an example of someone expressing their concerns the right way in my previous post link.

One of the major difference of opinion between myself and some others will come from people who think crafters should be able to craft BiS DoW/DoM gear of which I do not agree and neither did a hell of a lot of people prior to 3.0. Those against it back then put forth reasonable and valid reasons for their stance and I agreed with it. SE also agreed with those people and changed it so now those who disagreed with those other people are whining about that change. If SE changed it back then those who were against crafted BiS gear would then take the place of those whining only this time about the change back.

I am also highly in favor of the specialization system and want it further expanded upon even at the cost of omni-crafting. The difference between me and the OP despite both having certain concerns about the system is unlike him I am not acting like a petulant child in expressing them, I am not using extreme hyperbole and fallacies to back up my concerns.

[Jerichai]

Intelligence and understanding of something is not limited to experience so while I have partial experience in that mine are yet to reach 60, do not assume for one second that I am neither intelligent enough to understand how it works or wise enough to understand the implications. My main issue with the OP and most of the things he says are not limited to the fact he has issues with it but more so in how he is expressing his feelings on those issues through his click bait titles, extreme melodrama and hyperbole plus logical fallacies.

You really have no place criticizing how other people choose to express their opinions when most of your contributions have included personal attacks. What value is there in insulting people about their intelligence...which you have frequently done across multiple threads...in trying to prove your point.