ooids for sale on MB, 500k ridiculous

[Sibyll]

It does not make any difference what price people put them on MB for, the only thing that matters is what people are willing to pay and the price will drop like always does until it hits the right level for the buyers. So just wait, the prices will drop drastically.

Why would they drop drastically? The demographic of people that can supply these mats are:

1) Level 60 DoLs with 600 Gathering and enough perception to get 470 collectibility
2) Gatherers that are spending scrips on Favors rather than gearing
3) Gatherers that are farming these items for the purpose of selling rather than for personal use

On top of that, there is a weekly limit to how much this demographic can farm them, there is an RNG factor that limits supply, there are 10 different materials (5 Miner and 5 Botanist) so supply of each mat is going to be further divided.

I'm not saying I think it's good or bad design, but Ehcatl Sealants and these are two different beasts.

[PirateCat]

The items are currently very high in price only because it is new and people are trying to push their luck in asking a vast amount full in the knowledge it will drop drastically which is why they set it so high so will have more room between the highest estimate and what will eventually be the bottom price.

This, exactly. There's no reason not to try to charge a really high price if yours is the first and only one for sale. Either someone buys it because they're desperate to gear up as quickly as possible, or they don't and you still have your item for your own use. The prices will drop once there are enough people who put a higher value on getting something for the mats than on the fact that there's a limit to the rate at which they can be acquired.

[Snugglebutt]

Why would they drop drastically?

Wait and see over the coming weeks. I think I am going to be right and few others think I am going to be wrong, such is the life of assumptions and speculations. People who think the materials will be still worth anywhere close to 500k-1mil I believe are going to be in for a shock in 3-4 weeks time when drops to around 20-30% of it's current value. You can guess how much you think specific materials will be worth in 3 weeks time if you want now and I will do the same if you do so but overall I think it will end up around 60% drop in price (minimum) over the next few weeks which is 'a lot' and not 'a bit' relative to current values. Then for fun can come back to the thread in 3-4 weeks time and see who was closest.

[giantslayer]

Day 1 is really not a good time to gauge the long-term prices. I don't know what it takes for gatherers to get this stuff, but I don't think these will ever be affordable until they start nerfing or handing Mars out through other channels. IIRC, Ehcatl Sealants were 6-800k on day 1 on my server. After about a week or so, they stabilized at 500k and then slowly dropped over the next 2-3 months to like 200k.

While I don't know much about the gatherer side, for crafters, it takes 2-3 turn-ins to get one of Rowena's tokens. Turn-ins use i150 gear. Current material costs for those are around 100k a pop on my server. So each token takes 250k Gil worth of turn-ins to get, and it takes a bunch of those tokens.

My feeling on this is everything will be too rich for my blood until they nerf it (and I started Heavensward with 67mil).

[AnimaS]

Here is what I am getting, it costs gatherers red scrips to get these items and theyare inclined to not spend the scrips as to get the vendor gear

[AnimaS]

thus we don't have interdependence just a massive blow to crafters.

[scarebearz]

Day 1 is really not a good time to gauge the long-term prices. I don't know what it takes for gatherers to get this stuff, but I don't think these will ever be affordable until they start nerfing or handing Mars out through other channels. IIRC, Ehcatl Sealants were 6-800k on day 1 on my server. After about a week or so, they stabilized at 500k and then slowly dropped over the next 2-3 months to like 200k.

Crafter scripts and gather scripts are both needed for the new mats, both highly gated by weekly lockout.

These can only be obtained by decently geared lvl 60's, Sealants were obtainable by low lvl's, alts etc.

Sealants were used only for the crafting and gathering items, the other mats were freely farmable (allagan silk etc).

The difference between these new mats and the sealents (that were bad enough) is night and day.

[Yumi_umi]

Unless the majority of gatherers all decide to just supply and use up their red scrips. Cuz just like crafters we too should save our scrips for gear but to actually make a profit ur gonna have to use up a fair amount of red scrips as rng can hate u and waste 2 favors of ur 5.

[AnimaS]

Unless the majority of gatherers all decide to just supply and use up their red scrips. Cuz just like crafters we too should save our scrips for gear but to actually make a profit ur gonna have to use up a fair amount of red scrips as rng can hate u and waste 2 favors of ur 5.

you are the twit that put them up for sale on my server. I have alot of money. let's say pissing the 4mil for 10 x2 (20) yellow ooids is like ....... tossing a penny out of my wallet. I still won't buy it. There is no point. No one else will either. Have fun greedy one, I may just level up my gatherers 10 levels over the weekend and so will the others that are in the same situation as me. We already have money from 2.4 SE decided to decimate the flow of money? I've decided to sit this out, get my own stuff and bypass the twerp above. OH Blue ones and red ones now I GUESS you lied in your above statement.

[Yumi_umi]

Like i spent over 12 hours gathering in 1 day to see how much i can get and put up for sale but honestly its really tiring as rng has gave me the back hand and gave me 0 nodes for 2 favors ( 30 mins wasted & 20 scrips wasted ) i also like to say SE has mislabeled - matron's favor ( dravanian hinterlands ).
It gives you the buff for ( dravanian forelands ) BUT it still means u can ONLY use that buff in dravanian hinterlands.
I had to learn this the hard way = wasted a scrip figuring out this. So imo ppl who take the plunge now deserve to sell tht crap high as no one else is willing to take the 1st jab, well at least on my server lol.

If rng was nicer to me maybe the materials would be cheaper so yea..