Every Tank should have dps/tank stance be off-GCD and not reset their combo

[stoxastic]

They should add block rate to WAR axes and DRK swords, y'know, as a QoL change. Quality of my WAR's life will greatly improve if I can block with my axe.

[pandabearcat]

They should add block rate to WAR axes and DRK swords, y'know, as a QoL change. Quality of my WAR's life will greatly improve if I can block with my axe.

Sure, if we take away your parry. I don't care. You are making a facetious argument based on an invalid analogy between the two requests. Please, at least try to debunk with reasons.

It is odd though that I don't see any pld or drk contesting the idea...

Even though it doesn't even affect warriors in any way.

Hrm...very odd.

Noone ever said "hrm yes, well we need to decide between a pld and a war for our static. WHAT'S THAT? PLD CAN NOW STANCE DANCE OFF GCD? Alright, sorry FC wars, just go delete your accounts right now, you are completely and utterly worthless and we will never bring you".

Similarly, no player said "hrm, should I play pld or war? Oh whats that? WAR can go into deliverance/defiance w/o needing a GCD? Wow who would ever need those other two jobs? Screw that all war erry day"

[Phoenicia]

Similarly, no player said "hrm, should I play pld or war? Oh whats that? WAR can go into deliverance/defiance w/o needing a GCD? Wow who would ever need those other two jobs? Screw that all war erry day"

As a matter of fact, almost every time a tank comparison is brought up, that is one of the points that are mentioned. WAR's ability to switch between dances at a moment's notice with the exception of paying a 10s CD on switching back is one of their "traits".

Either way, I play DRK and I hate the MP cost on Grit, but it's not preventing me from stance dancing. It only means I have to plan well ahead before I drop Grit for whatever benefits I may gain of if it is not worth it at all. I find that attractive actually.

PLD gets the short end of the stick with ShO + SwO mana costs equaling a Grit. They also break their combo TWICE switching.

I'll use your argument against you though, NO ONE is telling PLDs or DRKs to go delete their accounts because they can't stance dance either.

[Phoenicia]

They should add block rate to WAR axes and DRK swords, y'know, as a QoL change. Quality of my WAR's life will greatly improve if I can block with my axe.

Yeah, I also want Brutal Swing CD changed to 2.5 seconds. That's a QoL change since PLD ALREADY has it. I mean why can the PLD stun lock targets and we can't? We're both tanks!

Also while at it, I want equilibrium to cost some MP but be used frequently instead of its 1 minute CD. PLD can heal back to full with back to back Clemency, why can't WAR do it? It's enough equilibrium is not affected by defiance. I see it fair and a QoL change.

[pandabearcat]

Yeah, I also want Brutal Swing CD changed to 2.5 seconds. That's a QoL change since PLD ALREADY has it. I mean why can the PLD stun lock targets and we can't? We're both tanks!

Also while at it, I want equilibrium to cost some MP but be used frequently instead of its 1 minute CD. PLD can heal back to full with back to back Clemency, why can't WAR do it? It's enough equilibrium is not affected by defiance. I see it fair and a QoL change.

I just love you guys, none of these even remotely apply.

For example, sure, you can have brutal swing to 2.5 seconds.

Sure, if you want it to interrupt your combo, and be on GCD.

Sure, if you want to spend 150 tp for it.

Oh whats that? For all intents and purposes, the warrior stun is MUCH MUCH BETTER IN PRACTICE than the pali one? Are you guys being serious right now? I would -kill- to have a war or drk stun. My god. Its like, you guys don't even know how good you have it.

Did you also forget enemies go immune after 3 stuns? So you can drain half your tp to "stun lock" an enemy for a total of 7 seconds, and do no damage. Or you can realize not a single boss is designed around the pali stun, and your stun is infinitely superior because you only need to use it when its up, and it costs you no resources, nor does it reset your combo nor use a gcd. Holy crap. Please take a step back and look at what you're even trying to argue.

If our FC did not already have a WAR and we didn't need rage of halone, i would go war in a heartbeat. Paladin is by far the WORST tank if you have competent healers. There is simply no contest here.

Sure have equilibrium be on GCD, kill combo, be interruptible, and literally cost half your mana to cast.

Oh whats that, your heal is already better...?

Be honest guys...do you really know what you're asking for...? Do you seriously think these cherry picked skills would be better than your currrent, fantastic kit?

And did you forget what this was even asking for? Literally something that would not affect any raid comp, at all.

I'll use your argument against you though, NO ONE is telling PLDs or DRKs to go delete their accounts because they can't stance dance either.

Yes that is true. I was being facetious. But I am shocked at all the opposition. Its like, War refuse to share. It -isn't- a big deal one way or another. Just something that would make it smoother to transition. And people are still hopping on the whole "argh then you want to stance dance every other gcd op" or something. No that isn't what the point of the OP is. Maybe you think that would be abused that way, so make a CD on it. I would not care in the least. It would still be superior than the current incarnation.