Do the dev's actually play this game?

[Verius_Nox]

I like how you compare it to WoW's class balancing. And even go into detail how much they care and how much effort they go into testing and talking with top guilds, etc. Because...

Disc priest, still the penultimate requirement for every raid, and a well played one makes some others obsolete(mistweaver).

How about that sweet frost DK buff then immediate nerf within 3 days after patch released? All that testing sure was useful.

Blood DK still one of the strongest tanks and capable of soloing even current content (looking at you solo lord kazzak kill)

Should I go on?

[Fendred]

I like how you compare it to WoW's class balancing. And even go into detail how much they care and how much effort they go into testing and talking with top guilds, etc. Because...

Disc priest, still the penultimate requirement for every raid, and a well played one makes some others obsolete(mistweaver).

How about that sweet frost DK buff then immediate nerf within 3 days after patch released? All that testing sure was useful.

Blood DK still one of the strongest tanks and capable of soloing even current content (looking at you solo lord kazzak kill)

Should I go on?

It's easy to criticize WoW when its development team isn't the same one that put it on the map so many years ago. They used to do a lot better.

[Assirra]

It's easy to criticize WoW when its development team isn't the same one that put it on the map so many years ago. They used to do a lot better.

Not it didn't.

I don't get where this illusion comes from at all.
Hell it was even worse before.

You are a druid or paladin that wants to tank? hahahahaha
Reroll warrior or spec healer or be kicked, you choose.
Holy priests were the 1 true healer.
Mages talent spec were straight up decided by the raids what kind of spec they were, good look going fire in MC/BWL/onyxia's lair.

At least from vanilla and tbc back when i played wow class balance was a mess. Don't know how it went after but back when i came in MoP and WoD it was also a mess so i doubt it was magically balanced in WoTLK and cata.
Wow has been the absolute staple in class stacking to victory, something that screams broken class balance.

[Duelle]

At least from vanilla and tbc back when i played wow class balance was a mess. Don't know how it went after but back when i came in MoP and WoD it was also a mess so i doubt it was magically balanced in WoTLK and cata.

Wrath wasn't that bad, though that is forgotten in all the death knight hate. Not to mention the bulk of the issues were in PvP, if I recall (and even then, 2 and 3-man arena teams). You weren't having raids sit warriors or druids, despite being the less-represented classes (wrath was pretty much paladin & death knight time). If you did PvE it was a pretty good time to be a paladin or shaman or druid (since you could do something other than spam buffs or healbot in raids).

[Krylo]

Wrath wasn't that bad, though that is forgotten in all the death knight hate. Not to mention the bulk of the issues were in PvP, if I recall (and even then, 2 and 3-man arena teams). You weren't having raids sit warriors or druids, despite being the less-represented classes (wrath was pretty much paladin & death knight time). If you did PvE it was a pretty good time to be a paladin or shaman or druid (since you could do something other than spam buffs or healbot in raids).

Ret Paladin during WotLK was completely and ridiculously over powered compared to every other DPS. In PvP two paladins and a healer could take on an entire opposing team in war zones--we would literally stand at the opposing graveyard, wait for them to rez and then kill them all again--and in PvE they were killing things nearly twice as quickly as anyone else. And this came on the heels of ret paladins being so ridiculously under powered that no one played them. A rubber-band isn't good balance.

Not sure about death knights. Trying to play one is actually what led to me quitting WoW the third (and final) time as that I wanted to do engineering on it and had to go back and mine low level areas and that's just completely unimportant. Point is I never got far with Death Knight.

[Duelle]

Ret Paladin during WotLK was completely and ridiculously over powered compared to every other DPS.

Ret never topped DPS meters throughout the whole expansion, despite their guaranteed crits against undead/demons and most of the expansion content being undead/demons.

And this came on the heels of ret paladins being so ridiculously under powered that no one played them.

Not really underpowered. They were intentionally designed to be less effective because Blizzard wanted them to be that thing some people here clamor for without understanding why it's a bad thing: support. TBC ret was supposed to be brought in because of Judgment refresh (which was only useful if you had several paladins in a raid, but since you pretty much brought pallys as only healers that didn't work out), blessings and Sanctity Aura (+2% damage to the raid).

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Since someone mentioned Yoshida mains BLM, I wonder how he handles the whole Enochian+Astral Fire+Thundercloud procs thing BLMs have been talking about for a while.

[Verius_Nox]

It's easy to criticize WoW when its development team isn't the same one that put it on the map so many years ago. They used to do a lot better.

Even in vanilla, balance was not good. Balance was a bit better in BC, but there were a lot of specs that were pretty much ignored.

Frankly, it's easy to criticize anything, but it is how you decide to criticize it. Criticizing FFXIV and using WoW as a "better example of balance", is pure folly.