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    Yea talking savage mode. Normal mode is easy to hit as we get TONS from current gear.
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    Moxxxi Lockhart
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    Hi as a NIN, i've made myself a BiS but after taking a look at the ones you put on 1º page I wanted a second opinion:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QYU5 is this viable

    Thanks and great post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwolfx9 View Post
    Hi as a NIN, i've made myself a BiS but after taking a look at the ones you put on 1º page I wanted a second opinion:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QYU5 is this viable

    Thanks and great post.
    Taking a quick look at this:

    -7 Dex
    -50 Acc
    -169 Crit
    +38 Det
    +151 SkSpeed

    With our current stat weights, Skill Speed is our lowest weighted stat by a pretty decent chunk, especially with keeping Huton up. I would say the 7 loss in dex and the 169 crit would not be worth the 38 in DET and 151 in SkSpeed
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  4. #74
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    F'cahnah Yohko
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    Quote Originally Posted by blackwolfx9 View Post
    Hi as a NIN, i've made myself a BiS but after taking a look at the ones you put on 1º page I wanted a second opinion:

    http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/QYU5 is this viable

    Thanks and great post.
    You're welcome

    Let's compare the build you linked and the one I have that doesn't include food benefits now, shall we? Both'll satisfy the 572 ACC constraint without any modification. Do note I'm using the weights present above (2.55 weights) in the guide. In "EQ:" a negative value means the new BiS is better than the old BiS; vice versa with a positive value.

    WD = 0. No Delta.
    DEX: 1072 - 1064 = 8
    CRT: 706 - 797 = -91
    DET: 600 - 570 = 30
    SS: 610 - 579 = 31

    EQ: 9.132(0) + 1(8) + 0.325(30) + 0.226(-91) + 0.215(31) = 3.849 [2.849]

    Positive value. The BiS I'm using--without any food benefits-- is higher compared to the one you set up.

    Let's see the difference when we make both sets have the same food: HQ Morel Salad.

    WD = 0. No Delta.
    DEX: 1072 - 1064 = 8
    CRT: 706 - 797 = -91
    DET: 630 - 570 = 60
    SS: 622 - 579 = 43

    EQ: 9.132(0) + 1(8) + 0.325(60) + 0.226(-91) + 0.215(43) = 16.179 [15.179]

    Positive value as well (as expected, thankfully), so the current BiS is higher compared to the one you set up.

    Let's change up what we'll consider the "old BiS" now and replace the w/o food version with the established w/ food version.

    WD = 0. No Delta.
    DEX: 1072 - 1064 = 8
    CRT: 814 - 797 = 17
    DET: 613 - 570 = 43
    SS: 544 - 579 = -35

    EQ: 9.132(0) + 1(8) + 0.325(17) + 0.226(43) + 0.215(-35) = 15.718 [14.718]

    Positive value. Surprisingly lower than the original w/o food version + HQ Morel Salad; I think I have a hotfix upcoming on that! Only issue is that the w/ food version always requires that particular food to be active.

    The BiS set you have is viable, as it satisfies any established constraints, but barely loses to the optimals when using 2.55 established weights.

    These sets could easily change when 3.0 weights are released; it's why BiS is organized under "III. Ninja R&D."

    Edit: Noticed I was using Midlander, yet compared to Au Ra. Values would be 1 lower (noted in brackets).
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    Last edited by LordTiberiusRex; 07-22-2015 at 02:45 PM.
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    If you judge all jobs by the people that are bad at them, then they are all mistakes.

  5. #75
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    Sorry for double post >.>

    Hotfixed the BiS Section.

    Summary:
    If you can afford food, go the w/ food route.
    If you cannot afford food, go the w/o food route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    If you judge all jobs by the people that are bad at them, then they are all mistakes.

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    Griffeth White
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    So we are pretty set on the ~570 accuracy for rear/flank for at least a1 and a2?
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  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffeth View Post
    So we are pretty set on the ~570 accuracy for rear/flank for at least a1 and a2?
    I'd claim it so.

    Saw flank values of 569 at 99.31% (~sigma level 4); safe to assume that values at 570+, including our 572 used in the guide right now, are valid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CYoung187 View Post
    If you judge all jobs by the people that are bad at them, then they are all mistakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LordTiberiusRex View Post
    Sorry for double post >.>

    Hotfixed the BiS Section.

    Summary:
    If you can afford food, go the w/ food route.
    If you cannot afford food, go the w/o food route.
    Don't suppose anyone's working on a sim so we can have 3.05 weights as opposed to 2.55 weights?
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    Renault Cathetel
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    Oh God, the Ninja Esoteric chest is terrible. I seriously think my i180 is a better return on damage dealt. The gloves, too.

    Why does SE keep stacking Skill Speed, the worst stat in the game, on a class that already burns through TP faster than any melee DPS?
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    Any 3m parses laying around? I'm only seeing 3:20 parses on youtube except for one that has the hive weapon, but i'm looking for one that has a Doman weapon.
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