Required rank on all gear

[Arcell]

Shut up about FFXI every game have a rank to wear gear FFXIV is the only one that i know of that allow us to wear whatever on what class you want. Not everyone on here care about FFXI anymore.

If you asking it should stay the same then you really need to look at it again. a level 1 should not be allow to wear level 50 gear for whatever reason it just dumb and the only reason most people want it is to dress up there char that fine but there other way to do this. make more underwear to dress there char and just take off all the gear and you can use that.

Why shouldn't a R1 be allowed to wear R50 gear? In the optimal system they're not gaining any benefit from it, in fact they're hurting themselves for not wearing gear their rank. Does it make you feel less special? Sorry to hear we can't all be special R50 snowflakes. I know you want to lord your great "achievements" of gear over people but there's no other reason to want rank requirements. You can have goals with optimal, you can have class uniqueness with optimal, you can feel special with optimal. It all hinges upon the user being smart enough to actually wear the gear they're supposed to, apparently a lot of people are too stupid to do that.

Optimal works fine, the penalties just need to be shown more clearly. Obviously people need it spelled out for them in bright bold letters otherwise they won't see it. Maybe they should have a prompt pop up that says "Are you sure you want to equip this? Its optimal rank is above yours, you won't receive the full benefits from this piece of equipment."

Optimal would be great if they just made the penalties more visible. Optimal can exist alongside rank/class required gear.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=214
^ related, also hilarious.

[SAMINUS]

If people "had" to buy near gear every so many levels cause their gear is outdated, this would not only show progression to the player, but would give more gear to be in demand for crafters to make.

Agreed, sure beats "SPAM SILVER NEEDLE!!!"

[Mihana]

I'm all for leaving unique pieces of gear to class restrictions or ranks, or things that really set a job apart. But as it's been said, all equipment should not be locked to a rank or class. Make penalities more obvious, make it clear what will happen wearing gear not suited for your class or rank. If you want a sense of accomplishment of leveling to a certain rank to wear a piece of gear, more power to you. Take that piece of gear and don't equip it until you're ready to use it! Why should you care if Mister Gladiator R18 is using the same gear as you, you know you earned it, that you can wear it proudly and get full benefits whereas Mister Gladiator's actually weaker wearing it than something suited for his rank or profession.

But in all honesty people need to quit acting as if someone using gear far beyond their rank or not designed for their class is actually hurting them. One, it hurts that player itself. A R20 wants to use a R45 jerkin? Go ahead! Just remind them they've got no right to complain if their gear costs like 5-6K to repair every few days because it wears out too quickly. And two, it's been said many times over but I shouldn't be expected to carry equipment for each and every class I decide to pick up on.

Yes I normally use gear to roleplay, but I also use that gear to level up lower ranked classes. I picked up a blue canvas tunic, R21 for a roleplay once. Later I'm using that same gear on my R24 Thaumaturge since it gives me suitable stats for my current rank and is suited for my rank. All in all, people are getting fussy about this just like the anima system because they think it makes you either too lazy or somehow adversely affects them.

But if it's truly that bad or you feel strongly about it, then follow your own rule and ignore the noob there using gear too strong for himself. Don't use equipment until you're ready to use it. Come 1.19 lower ranked gear will be easier to make and come by. Quests currently even offer gear (generic stuff but most gear is when it's hempen) for low ranks! The wards even have NPCs to purchase equipment from if it's not on sale. So many people tend to forget this part too.

[Phenidate]

I would like to see more gear with level requirements, if but to add a more obvious measure of progression.

I would disagree with locking all gear to specific classes. If someone wants to run in all cloth gear as gladiator, they'll be punished by the simple fact that they were stupid enough to wear cloth instead of armor into combat. Plus it will keep the people who like vanity gear happy, and helps to avoid the old jokes about how dumb being unable to put on a shirt is.

[Zenaku]

Why shouldn't a R1 be allowed to wear R50 gear? In the optimal system they're not gaining any benefit from it, in fact they're hurting themselves for not wearing gear their rank. Does it make you feel less special? Sorry to hear we can't all be special R50 snowflakes. I know you want to lord your great "achievements" of gear over people but there's no other reason to want rank requirements. You can have goals with optimal, you can have class uniqueness with optimal, you can feel special with optimal. It all hinges upon the user being smart enough to actually wear the gear they're supposed to, apparently a lot of people are too stupid to do that.

Optimal works fine, the penalties just need to be shown more clearly. Obviously people need it spelled out for them in bright bold letters otherwise they won't see it. Maybe they should have a prompt pop up that says "Are you sure you want to equip this? Its optimal rank is above yours, you won't receive the full benefits from this piece of equipment."

Optimal would be great if they just made the penalties more visible. Optimal can exist alongside rank/class required gear.

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=214
^ related, also hilarious.

Let's start by it about it not about showing off it about self accomplishment and self progression. Which causal and hardcore and many type of players is the main thing about a game.

You do understand that i'm not 50 which does not make me a snowflake? stop using the stereotype of snowflake to prove your point. Like everyone else who try and use a sterotype to prove a point like white knight,troll,want FFXI 2.0,casual,hardocore It wont help you and it sure wont prove your point.

So let's start by what i have said and many have said about this issue. This is not FFXI or WoW where you can just easy go and get the gear for a monstar drop or a dungeon. Most of all the gear that you need to level up with can't be found off random mobs or dungeon. Sure there NM now that drop some of the gear but does everyone have a level 50 class that can solo a mob to try and get the drop?

In FFXI everything drop off from a mob and only a few select item was craft. Which mean that in FFXIV it up to the craft to give out item that every player need. Not all the crafter in every singel servers are making low end gear or med range. I myself had to put up getting rank 40+ gear due not everyone selling the item and if by luck there one it's +1 +2 +3 and overprice to the point that cost 100+k for a item that cost less then 20k to make. So when the game economy run off the craft making and selling item and there no way of getting it by any other means is where the issue start.

This game is making you level up all the DOH/DOL so you can repair and make your own item. Due to the fact that no one sell low end item or med range item becuase no one is buying them becuase everyone end up using high 10+ level above there own. So if you lock by level Craft would start making and selling low and different color item. The merket ward would be full of NQ,HQ item. Even the DOL would be making loads of money due to the need of craft. So you and everyone here not likeing this idea going to sit there and not agree. So you can walk around with high end looking gear to show off?

There two thing that could fix this issue make it so many mobs in game drop every item. Then the craft wont even be high in demand becuase i can easy farm each item. Or people can farm them and sell it and undercut the DOH class. Or you can easy lock the item per level and make it so craft be in high demand and everyone can make money.

To fix the issue that other like wearing nice looking gear to show off? Easy make a system that allow you to copy / paste any gear you like in the game to your underwear or make lot's of good looking underwear to fix this issue.



Your pick so please stop with the snowflake and try and say there not a issue here. so you can go on wearing high level gear or w/e reason you want it for and give a good reason or a way to fix this issue just how i did now. Thank you and have a nice day sorry if you find this rude or anything just trying to prove my point.

[Val_Rhys]

While I personally would prefer a required rank on all gear, I would be more than happy with an optimal rank system which not only made it visible/obvious what your stats would be by using it under the optimal rank, but significant reductions in gear stats when under rank.

As an example, and I realize this is a bit extreme because of a lack of intermediate gear, but the Dodore Doublet is better than the Canvas Doublet for GSM/BSM/ARM/ALC at rank 30. That is insane to me. 18 ranks below the optimal rank and the gear is better than everything else.

[LillithaFenimore]

I have to say...no thanks...leave the current gear the way it is...but implement new gear..."unique" looking gear that has level requirements, and also add better stats...

[Arcell]

There two thing that could fix this issue make it so many mobs in game drop every item. Then the craft wont even be high in demand becuase i can easy farm each item. Or people can farm them and sell it and undercut the DOH class. Or you can easy lock the item per level and make it so craft be in high demand and everyone can make money.

To fix the issue that other like wearing nice looking gear to show off? Easy make a system that allow you to copy / paste any gear you like in the game to your underwear or make lot's of good looking underwear to fix this issue.



Your pick so please stop with the snowflake and try and say there not a issue here. so you can go on wearing high level gear or w/e reason you want it for and give a good reason or a way to fix this issue just how i did now. Thank you and have a nice day sorry if you find this rude or anything just trying to prove my point.

If you could farm any piece of equipment or crafting material from monsters that would completely destroy DoH/DoL as full classes. They would just be side-hobbies with little value. Why bother crafting or gathering when you can just farm it? This would easily flood the market beyond belief. People are complaining the materia conversions and failures won't be able to get rid of gear fast enough, add that to the equation and you can forget about it. Everything would have little to no value.

Allowing a system that copies the look of one weapon to the stats of another would be good. Aion did this first and I thought it was a unique idea, other MMOs are following their lead on it. Though even with Aion's system the rarest gear couldn't be copied over.

I actually don't wear gear that's higher level, I follow the optimal rank system.

[Pyrix]

Optimal rank is better, shut up about it.

[Zenaku]

If you could farm any piece of equipment or crafting material from monsters that would completely destroy DoH/DoL as full classes. They would just be side-hobbies with little value. Why bother crafting or gathering when you can just farm it? This would easily flood the market beyond belief. People are complaining the materia conversions and failures won't be able to get rid of gear fast enough, add that to the equation and you can forget about it. Everything would have little to no value.

Allowing a system that copies the look of one weapon to the stats of another would be good. Aion did this first and I thought it was a unique idea, other MMOs are following their lead on it. Though even with Aion's system the rarest gear couldn't be copied over.

I actually don't wear gear that's higher level, I follow the optimal rank system.

Did you even read my post? i said "Then the craft wont even be high in demand becuase i can easy farm each item. Or people can farm them and sell it and undercut the DOH class. Or you can easy lock the item per level and make it so craft be in high demand and everyone can make money."

So i pretty much said the same thing so A you did not understand what i said or B you only read the first line.

The best way to fix this would to be lock each item by Level. It would make craft in high demand. The market ward would be full of item from every level. When the ps3 reason this is where the craft would make money but what about the people who are playing now? they making us level up all our craft due to this issue because no one sell the item you looking for. When you do find a craft that can make it for you they ask for the item to make it and money for the item so it like huh? even your own linkshell people do this but not everyone you still can get good item from people but still take time due to them taking there time to make it and such. vs me buying it straight from the ward but i can't due to no one making it or i have to make it myself.

This is the issue with FFXIV making the craft be there own class and give them the power to make every item in the game beside the few item that drop from the HNM,NM,Dungeon but we did not have this from release so everyone ended up level up everything for repair and such due to high price in repair from players/npc. All of this is the issue and it little to late to repair due to everyone having many rank 50 craft.

So there few way to fix this issue.

A: Make all item level lock
B: Make all new item that craft get Level lock and even the rank 50+ "But then the ps3 players can't find the low level item due to craft not making them"

Or find other idea that they can come up with or make it so NPC sell all the item but then the craft can make profit if you make the mob drop it that would mess up DOL/DOH just like i said and you did.

I follow the optimal rank but it hard when the item is not sold or overprice due to it being HQ. So beside everyone on here leave the system it's fine when it not. Try and come up with idea to fix the issue like most of us are trying to do like myself.

And for the rest that just want level lock is due to what i said at the start "self accomplishment and self progression. Which causal and hardcore and many type of players is the main thing about a game."

Which is my reason and also and so i can find item for my level and not wear something +10 or pay overprice HQ or become a rainbow due to craft not selling all color items. All of this are issue top of that craft don't even make much money from selling gear due to fact that there no limit how many craft you can make but that other issue all together. which SE should not allow anyone to level all craft to max pass 50 but that just other issue up to SE. Let's try and fix this issue at hand.