Who do you think will get the Black mage job? CON or THM

[Dargoth_Draconia]

True but they said WHM and BLM are jobs that are coming first. and as of the first jobs appearing into the game each class has 1 job.

So one mage has to be a WHM and the other has to be a BLM

They said WHM was coming first they never said BLM was coming with the first batch. THM is likely to be RDM of sorts like others have said.

[DNO]

You guys are taking a very skewed approach. Essentially you are making the facts fit what you expect, rather than taking the facts and using them to form a picture.

What we know:

1. When jobs are released, each class will have access to 1 job (7 jobs total)
2. Job names that have been finalized and decided upon are Paladin, Monk, Dragon Knight, Bard, White Mage, Black Mage (6 jobs)
3. Classes will gain access to more jobs in the future, unlocked via quests at specific ranks

What most people did right away is combine the 1st and 2nd fact, presuming that the finalized jobs were to be the first jobs released. There is NO evidence pointing to this connection - in fact they have 6 finalized jobs and 7 classes to give jobs to.

If the finalized job names were not revealed, everyone would logically expect CON to get both WHM and BLM. Not necessarily at the same time, but it makes the most sense. However, since they released 6 jobs names, and 2 were mages, everyone decided to fit the 2 mage jobs with the 2 mage classes. One hole in that is that Bard is also technically a mage job, but that doesn't even matter. The post did NOT say that the finalized jobs were in fact the ones to be released first.

right you are correct but you are no more Right then i am or he is. Why? because as you said there is no more info.

The info we have is WHm and BLM are coming.

Theres 1 job per class.

thats it. Why would SE make a job thats not for any class in the game first? that seems like poor choices. You make jobs for classes that are already in the game. So everyone playing CURRENLTY can use the new content.

Again you are no more correct then anyone here. this is a thread asking people to guess, we are not giving facts about anything we do not know. I may think im more right then others but that means nothing. this thread is a guess thread. So guess on the jobs please.

[Archadius]

I love it when people try to generate "facts" out of thin air just to appease their personal desires.

If anyone wants to know the FACTS... they have been mentioned a few times in this thread.

- 6 job TITLES confirmed so far
- Only confirmed job/class relationship so far is PLD goes to GLA (though MNK/PGL seems obvious)
- Plan is for 1 job per class for the first wave, but there is the possibility of more if they are ready
- We do not know which jobs, of those that have been revealed, are coming in the first wave (seriously they could have 8 other jobs they are working on that were not mentioned to us and have plans to release 7 of them in 1.20 and 7 more in 1.21)

[Kiote]

People who think THM is going to become Black Mage are Delusional.. If there is one thing SE is not going to do, it's rewrite the entire story line for every class. They can't take Elemental Spells away from Conjurer without having to do that.

[Chinook]

Straight from the second to last Producer Letter:

Review of actions for all battle classes. List of redistributed actions to be released to players
Changes to be implemented in 1.20 with player feedback taken into account

Further changes to enhance class uniqueness (partially complete as of 1.18)

Which makes me think it's pointless to have such a debate using the current CON and THM skills since they'll prolly be changed before jobs are set.

[DNO]

They said WHM was coming first they never said BLM was coming with the first batch. THM is likely to be RDM of sorts like others have said.

We have people in the thread stating that BLM is in there read up. It was a quote from bay.

[NoctisUmbra]

We have people in the thread stating that BLM is in there read up. It was a quote from bay.

The quote from Bayohne states that BLM and WHM are finalized job names. It does not say, or even suggest, that they are both in the initial batch. Read again please.

EDIT: nvm it's not even a Bayohne quote I derped there lol. It's an INTERVIEW where they casually made a remark on finalized job names. Only official info we got from reps is GLA gets PLD and each class gets 1 job. Nothing suggests both BLM and WHM are in the initial batch.

right you are correct but you are no more Right then i am or he is. Why? because as you said there is no more info.

The info we have is WHm and BLM are coming.

Theres 1 job per class.

thats it. Why would SE make a job thats not for any class in the game first? that seems like poor choices. You make jobs for classes that are already in the game. So everyone playing CURRENLTY can use the new content.

Why would SE make a job that's not for any class currently in the game?
Who said they even made BLM yet? They said they finalized BLM as a job name and decided it will be one of the jobs. For a staple like BLM making that decision is obvious - especially since they had the gear concept art ready well before jobs were even mentioned.

Knowing that they will definitely use BLM as a job does not mean they will put it in the first wave. Thus, if they decide not to, they will probably be working on WHM heavily along with the other 6 jobs they will release in the first wave, and leave the details of BLM until after that. You see how finalizing a job name =/= finalizing development of said job?

I am not claiming to be more right than anyone else. I am debunking the idea that there is any sort of evidence that even suggests that WHM and BLM will be shared between CON and THM. I am not taking that extra step of assumption that people seem to be doing.

I typed out my guesses on my first post in this thread, and sure anyone is free to guess that THM will get BLM. A guess is a guess is a guess. When someone claims to have evidence for that guess though, I cannot resist to debunk it.

[Archadius]

We have people in the thread stating that BLM is in there read up. It was a quote from bay.

This is the official statement made by Bayohne back in June:

Click the arrows to go to this post and read the Bay quote lol

[DNO]

Click the arrows to go to this post and read the Bay quote lol

i dont even no what your saying but its moot really. what we have are quotes for the devs and what not so i dont understand what you are saying.

[DNO]

The quote from Bayohne states that BLM and WHM are finalized job names. It does not say, or even suggest, that they are both in the initial batch. Read again please.



Why would SE make a job that's not for any class currently in the game?
Who said they even made BLM yet? They said they finalized BLM as a job name and decided it will be one of the jobs. For a staple like BLM making that decision is obvious - especially since they had the gear concept art ready well before jobs were even mentioned.

Knowing that they will definitely use BLM as a job does not mean they will put it in the first wave. Thus, if they decide not to, they will probably be working on WHM heavily along with the other 6 jobs they will release in the first wave, and leave the details of BLM until after that. You see how finalizing a job name =/= finalizing development of said job?

I am not claiming to be more right than anyone else. I am debunking the idea that there is any sort of evidence that even suggests that WHM and BLM will be shared between CON and THM. I am not taking that extra step of assumption that people seem to be doing.

I typed out my guesses on my first post in this thread, and sure anyone is free to guess that THM will get BLM. A guess is a guess is a guess. When someone claims to have evidence for that guess though, I cannot resist to debunk it.

Your not debuking anything. You have no proof or backup to say otherwise. We do. Fact is the FIRST jobs finalized are WHM BLM. there are two mages in the game. Your answering question with questions so it makes your debate weak.

Fact is it does not say they are the FIRST jobs but it does say its the FIRST jobs finalized. SO while it does not state its the first in the game it also does not state it is NOT the first in the game. Your guess has a less chance of happeneing then mine.

Edit: anyway it does not matter stop trying to "win" a guesing game. Do not "debunk" anyones guess with yours especially if you dont even at least have a vague Dev response to back it up. Just state why you think THM or BLM is coming or not coming.