Naoki Yoshida, Balance the game please [War DPS TOO HIGH!]

[Kiteless]

It reminds me when Dragoon wasn't chosen in the 2.3;2.4 days because he was kind of weak. SE statistically noticed that people weren't taking dragoons into parties and this scared the living pants off of them.

If they notice people are clearing dps checks of "extreme" content a few weeks after release with like 5 warriors, I can personally assume they will in fact nerf warrior dps or at least tp usage.

When they see that any class is being cast aside or eschewed for another meta, they kick it into high gear and make adjustments ASAP.

I'm not saying it for sure, but I would greatly suspect they will either adjust your dps, or more likely, adjust your ability to burst so easily or reliably.

Except the only problem here is that bad DPS can't keep up. Pretty much any content you could clear with 5 WARs, you could clear with any combination of 5 tanks (although you might want to consider at least one WAR for Storm's Eye). SE shouldn't balance this game around DPS players who can't parse beyond 500.

In the case of DRG, it was a matter of the class being statistically worse than other DPS at the same roll, regardless of how good your execution may have been. DRGs were ignored because they simply could not possibly perform to the level that other DPS could. In the case of WAR, it's not performing to a degree that its rendering DPS irrelevant. It's just that most DPS players perform to a degree that renders themselves irrelevant.

[The_Real_K]

Would be more fun if they made Dark Knight a bit more powerful or more utility instead of weakening Warrior.

I feel like Warrior high dps is part of its identity, offsetting it not having as much insane damage mitigation as paladin.

i like the way you think friend... glass half full!!

[m3eansean]

I agree, they shouldn't tune the game to those dps that can't parse over 500. That said, SE are the ones with the statistics of "average" dps levels of all players and will adjust the game accordingly so the majority of the base can play the content (like when they nerfed ninja on release because they didn't anticipate the levels of dps that players could achieve with it).

Warrior is a beast, I'm not complaining, the more damage the better. But if they see a clear exclusion or preference towards any one class, they will adjust things, as they have historical done.

[Faytte]

I would be fine with a buff. Paladin threat and dps is simply --to-- low atm.

[Felorr]

Maybe you should git gud?

you mean grit gud?

[dank1]

As mentioned before this is all good in theory but falls flat in practice. Buffing everyone else makes dps checks easier, throws off the threat generation of classes in relation to others and introduces a whole bunch of other problems. If you mess with the dps checks you now need to mess with enrage timers. Mess with enrage timers and you could be messing with the total number of times a mechanic is se is slightly out of balance.

In buffing players you could also buff the content, nobody likes nerfs. I dont even main warr I main drk and I'd hate to see them nerfed just cause someone was envious of another class, with buffing not only the classes but the contents, you're essentially nerfing the players without calling it that and the backlash that comes with it.

Edit: to the guy complaining about warriors as a drk, I outperform most warriors I encounter on the DF and even PF averaging 700 dpsish when I focus and go all out, this is without hive weap, being mediocre on any class is easy you just have to put the effort not to be

[Twilite]

Warrior is a beast, I'm not complaining, the more damage the better. But if they see a clear exclusion or preference towards any one class, they will adjust things, as they have historical done.

This right here.. They nerfed nins in FFXI like 5 times during the 75era, trying to keep them from not being a tank class as everyone flocked to it because "shadows = INVINCIBLE". All the while doing *nothing* for PLDs. WARs had to work extra harder to tank(WARs were DD back when damage dealers were called that), despite being the only class that natively gets provoke.

But that game was run by a totally different team.

[Allyrion]

In buffing players you could also buff the content, nobody likes nerfs. I dont even main warr I main drk and I'd hate to see them nerfed just cause someone was envious of another class, with buffing not only the classes but the contents, you're essentially nerfing the players without calling it that and the backlash that comes with it.

That's a silly work around that costs more development time and effort.
So if there's one Job out of balance, the whole role gets brought up and content is buffed too just to appease the players of one Job.
You can't move the whole goalpost every time, you need a standard to balance around.

Nerfing can't be some taboo because some players can't get over themselves.
That's ridiculous to tune content and every other Job shifting the whole balance around just to avoid hurting some feelings, while aiming to accomplish a nerf in the end.

Not that I'm saying WAR needs nerfing.

[CGMidlander]

"They are Warriors" doesn't mean anything. What do you base yourself on to say what a WAR should be ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_ZMmEFA4Q0

[FinalWolf]

Pretty sure OP is just joking.