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  1. #371
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    GalkaBikini's Avatar
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    Promyvion Vahzl
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    Excalibur
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    Alchemist Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by SirTaint View Post
    Lucerzia parse
    This is EXACTLY what Izsha was talking about in their earlier post. Why would you link DPS meters from the #1 team in the game when 99% of the game's population (likely including yourself I'm sure) isn't close to that level? It's pointless.
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  2. #372
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    Khemorex's Avatar
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    Khalindra Nela
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    Cerberus
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    Gladiator Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    This is EXACTLY what Izsha was talking about in their earlier post. Why would you link DPS meters from the #1 team in the game when 99% of the game's population (likely including yourself I'm sure) isn't close to that level? It's pointless.
    thats cool bro , they might be number 1 to someone , but i couldnt care less about it , as some others probably also
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  3. #373
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    Kirana's Avatar
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    Kirana Rika
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    Diabolos
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Eye_Gore View Post
    The community has an unhealthy obsession with telling others how they should play their character.
    You mean a healthy obsession with figuring out what is optimal and spreading that information.
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  4. #374
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    SirTaint's Avatar
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Gyson View Post
    Snipped for bad math

    Math: 6729dps = 4min 12 sec kill If both tanks were in VIT and lets say did 500dps (probably lower but lets be nice) its 6098 dps which is 4min 38 sec kill. So that's +26 seconds, now factor in that Ravana was about to do swift liberation you need to add another 20 seconds and you would be finishing him during final liberation.

    That is simplifying things since the slower DPS would actually domino from the beginning of the fight, lowering the entire raids DPS by a decent chunk.
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  5. #375
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    ZephyrK's Avatar
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    Zephyr Kote
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    Gilgamesh
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    White Mage Lv 60
    I am leveling a DPS character because tanks wanting to do MAD DEEPS has completely destroyed my fun factor. It's frustrating watching them go from 90% to 10% in a single GCD, and I feel like I can't do anything but stare at HP bars in anticipation. Forget Cleric Stance, any DPS I might have contributed is now sucked out of the black hole that is tank DPS.
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  6. #376
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    Izsha Azel
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Khemorex View Post
    thats ok for ur group , not for others XD
    That's my point. You are taking your group and saying everyone must be like you, but how is that a better argument than "my group wants str tanks so everyone should be like me"? You can't say that you are right because it's what you do then say others are wrong for what they do. It's hypocrisy. You're group PREFERS vit tanks. That doesn't make str tanks wrong. Preference isn't right or wrong.

    These threads continue because people are propogating rightness and wrongness to an aspect of the game where that is determined by skill and preference. If you and your group are skilled enough you can wear more str, and even prefer it. There's nothing wrong with that. Lucrezia with str tanks doesn't somehow devalue vit tanks everywhere. They can both coexist. Everyone doesn't have to be like 'your group'. They aren't your group.
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    Last edited by Izsha; 07-21-2015 at 04:08 AM.

  7. #377
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    Warlyx's Avatar
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    Warlyx Arada
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    Moogle
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Zumi View Post
    A fast kill more due to the fact that the healers are dpsing and they are single tanking the fight. Most pug Ravana ex people double tank and the healers don't dps.
    if only pugs played like lucrezia members
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  8. #378
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    Eye_Gore's Avatar
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    Yolanda Freebush
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirana View Post
    You mean a healthy obsession with figuring out what is optimal and spreading that information.
    What may be optimal for one, doesn't mean its optimal for another.
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  9. #379
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    Sir Taint
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    Behemoth
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    Alchemist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by GalkaBikini View Post
    This is EXACTLY what Izsha was talking about in their earlier post. Why would you link DPS meters from the #1 team in the game when 99% of the game's population (likely including yourself I'm sure) isn't close to that level? It's pointless.
    It is a very valid parse. If their exceptional healers can keep up two STR tanks while in clerics stance for almost the entire fight (it was only off while he was untargetable) then surely average healers can keep up two STR tanks by never using clerics, or using it sparingly. Two raid tier healers could synergize their clerics with one another.
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  10. #380
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    Zumi's Avatar
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    Zumi Kasumi
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 100
    I was so use to dark being a dps job from 11 I didn't notice they had a 2nd tank. But almost all darks use all str by default because they want to be dps lol

    The question is what if you have healers who tell you to use vit gear and would get really mad if you did use str gear? With my group the whm told me to use all vit gear because he doesn't care about the boss dying 30 seconds faster. Which I do because they are the healer after all. At the end of the day if you beat all the content does it really matter if you used str or vit gear on your tank? The bosses are still dead you still got your loot, so why the huge argument over it?
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    Last edited by Zumi; 07-21-2015 at 04:13 AM.

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