Unjust Kicking from Alexander T4

[Reynhart]

just wanted to know wth does this supose to mean?

It means judging people skill by wether they already won or not is pretty stupid

Like one of my recent pick-up told me "You only have an i160 weapon, you can't give advice on the strat"

[okitaluc]

I prefer explain the fight in details , it can save a run from wipe , costing less time for me doing whatever I'm doing.

[WarDaughter]

I have to agree with this post. I was recently kicked from A4 as well, unjustly.

I watched every video I could find, and read several guides before going in. I was by no means blind. But watching a video and actually immersing yourself in a raid are two different experiences, especially as melee DPS (DRG) who has to be up-close and personal with the boss, which happens to be enourmous, which makes positioning the camera to keep an eye on the party incredibly difficult.

I thought I was doing okay. My DPS was fine, I wasn't failing to any mechanics that I could see. No one said a word.

We wiped. No one said a word again.

We wiped again.

I got torn into for not knowing what I was doing. Before I could even ask what I'd done wrong, I was kicked.

How is that fair? How does that help? I was left feeling so defeated that I have yet to try again. I just want to play and practice and get better like everyone else. Everyone is new to the content at some point, FFS.

[Kaedan]

@WarDaughter

Perhaps instead of remaining silent yourself after the first wipe, you should have asked or at least started a conversation about why you wiped.

If it was actually your fault, and you didn't take the time to find out why you all wiped in the first place, then them kicking you wasn't unjust.

[healthetank]

I have to agree with this post. I was recently kicked from A4 as well, unjustly.

I thought I was doing okay. My DPS was fine, I wasn't failing to any mechanics that I could see. No one said a word.

We wiped. No one said a word again.

We wiped again.

I got torn into for not knowing what I was doing. Before I could even ask what I'd done wrong, I was kicked.

How is that fair? How does that help? I was left feeling so defeated that I have yet to try again. I just want to play and practice and get better like everyone else. Everyone is new to the content at some point, FFS.

Were you A, B, or C? Did you let people know when vaced? Did you help with lasers/orbs or accidentally draw them on other people?

[Kaedan]

The fact is Alex is ridiculously easy, the only 1 which requires a little bit more teamwork is A4. Since day 1 I have seen A1 in pf no Sol, I mean come on really no Sol? Kill adds under laser, bring ok dps and kill both bosses within 10 seconds of each other, people really need to watch a 15min video to learn that?
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I've actually had parties wipe more during A1 than A4. About a 50% wipe rate for A1 and only 25% wipe rate for A4 (personal experience). In both cases a single DPS can screw it up for you. So A1 is just as "hard" as A4 (I put that in quotes because none of Alex is hard if you know the mechanics).

A2 and A3 can be just as bad too if DPS don't know about the mech in A2 and the piston slimes in A3 (or the off tank doesn't know about splitting and swapping).

The point is, none of Alex is "hard" at all if you know the mechanics, and people should have the common courtesy to look them up before they attempt it rather than expect someone in the group to spoon feed it to them. And if they just go in blind and don't even ask, that's just plain rude. That's not to say most of us here saying this aren't willing to explain, just that it's a bit thoughtless.

[WarDaughter]

@Kaeden

No one left time for conversation. We wiped, we respawned, the tank immediately pulled. It was the third phase and the boss was down to ~15% HP. I thought we'd been doing okay, a wipe or two isn't the end of the world in a DF group.

@healthetank

There was no A, B, or C on the field, and I didn't happen to get quarantined with this group. I helped with orbs, I didn't help with lasers because I thought that was covered.

Seriously, my point isn't IT WASN'T MY FAULT, WAHH, WHY ME. It very well could have been my fault. My point is that I don't even know what I did wrong, because rather than just say one little pointer between respawns, or even a simple "DRG needs to _____", or even a rude "DRG wiped us, stop _____ing" I got yelled at and immediately booted. That shouldn't be how you raid. If I really was messing up on a mechanic over and over, TELL ME SO I CAN FIX IT.

[SakuraMidori]

Snip.

Well said this right here i 100% agree with and nice to see someone gets it

[dayspring83]

I do agree with this to a degree.

I fail to see the point of going into a duty and asking for mechanics to be explained. If you aren't going to do it blind, why go in and make people waste their time explaining when you could have watched a video without wasting anyone's time? If you want to go in blind, don't ask for mechanics. If you want an explanation, watch a video. Making people explain to you is pretty annoying.

This drives me crazy...I get it that some people want to go in blind and learn mechanics. Not for me, but I truly understand why some want to go about it that way. But if that's the case, dont go in to a random PUG and then ask for directions. Either get a learning PT going or watch the video. You cant have it both ways.

[zemogFC]

It's because he was a level 60 Arcanist. lol