Can we please get a serious 24-man raid in 3.1?

[Hammerfist]

Since we already got our new "Crystal Tower" (a.k.a. Alexander NM) and we won't be getting any intermediate raids any time soon (given the supposedly very high difficulty of Savage Alexander), wouldn't it be nice to actually give us our first challenging 24-man raid in 3.1?

I mean, let's be serious: the Labyrinth of the Ancients was slightly challenging when it came out back in 2.1 since it required a minimum amount of skill and coordination within the alliance, but the Syrcus Tower and the World of Darkness were complete facerolls, bare from almost any real challenge and quite boring to do after the first few times.

I won't make comparisons with other MMOs (even though I should), but we have the option to create alliances by inviting 3 full parties in-game and what is this option used for? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. Hell, we still don't even have a legit way to queue for a Crystal Tower instance with anything more than a full party. This total lack of large-scale content makes me also wonder what's the point of having a Free Company besides giving you a few buffs and a borderline useless house (always if your FC could even find one available), since we are always forced to play in small static groups or random PUGs anyway.

If you really feel there is a need for even more casual content (as if all the dungeons, trials, hunts, story quests, levequests, guildhests, treasure maps and "raids" weren't enough) then fine, give us at least a Normal/Story Mode and a Hard Mode version doable by a premade alliance (not random PUGs in the DF, at least not at launch) and with some actual challenge and rewards. Be careful though, this is NOT asking for a difficulty or one-shotting mechanics similar to the pre-nerf Binding Coils of Bahamut, as that may be too hard to manage with a 24-man alliance (in a Savage version perhaps?), but a difficulty that is more of a mix between the Labyrinth of the Ancients and the Extreme Primals and mechanics that require strategy development, high performance and strict coordination between all groups.

Thank you for your attention

[Atlaworks]

I'm cool never running LotA again, I'm also cool without running any analogue of it ever again

The raid was fine, but man that part where you had to deal with 23 other randos sucked

[Hyouretsuzan]

Alexander isn't the "Crystal Tower" for 3.0. It's just an added mode for those who wish to see the story and not raid.

[Hammerfist]

Alexander isn't the "Crystal Tower" for 3.0. It's just an added mode for those who wish to see the story and not raid.

A story mode that currently gives you the best gear in the game and has the same weekly lockout Crystal Tower had.

[Hyouretsuzan]

A story mode that currently gives you the best gear in the game and has the same weekly lockout Crystal Tower had.

I'm aware. But that doesn't change the fact that it isn't the 24 man raid content for 3.0. SE never said alexander NM will replace "Crystal Tower" raid.

[Martin_Arcainess]

A story mode that currently gives you the best gear in the game and has the same weekly lockout Crystal Tower had.

Until Tuesday it wont be the best gear, it's not 24 man, it's split into 4 parts.

But back to the topic at hand I think they should keep 24 man raids easy. Even today you still get people failing at 24 man raids so to make it harder would be more of a butt sore then enjoyable. 24 man raid has always been a catch up type of dungeon and to make it harder means they need to give us top end gear.

[Lisotte]

Until Tuesday it wont be the best gear, it's not 24 man, it's split into 4 parts.

But back to the topic at hand I think they should keep 24 man raids easy. Even today you still get people failing at 24 man raids so to make it harder would be more of a butt sore then enjoyable. 24 man raid has always been a catch up type of dungeon and to make it harder means they need to give us top end gear.

Why wouldn't they give us top end gear? Seems reasonable to me.

[Martin_Arcainess]

Why wouldn't they give us top end gear? Seems reasonable to me.

Mostly due to Top end gear beining a reward from Hard content, I just not so found of the idea myself where each member of a Alliance needs to play there role at there best in order to clear said content.

And if they made it easy, then it would kinda a slap to the players who work hard on hard content to get rewards. Then again there give off items to upgrade your gear to to top tier from 24 man quest wise.

[SDaemon]

A story mode that currently gives you the best gear in the game.

For the next day and a half.....

[CYoung187]

A story mode that currently gives you the best gear in the game and has the same weekly lockout Crystal Tower had.

It has the best gear for a few weeks until savage come out. Big deal. It is still meant to be casual.