Unjust Kicking from Alexander T4

[Jin-]

FFXIV was the first MMORPG where i saw things like this:

- Did you watch Youtube videos before entering the dungeon
- Did you watch the guides before entering the dungeon

If you response, no i did not? Then you are noob and bad player.

This is strange community. Dungeons are supposed to be learned by playing them, wiping, learning by mistake, improving etc... And not how some elitists want that people should watch some videos lol .

This was in Ultimate Ballad. Easily learned after couple of wipes.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

FFXIV was the first MMORPG where i saw things like this:

- Did you watch Youtube videos before entering the dungeon
- Did you watch the guides before entering the dungeon

If you response, no i did not? Then you are noob and bad player.

This is strange community. Dungeons are supposed to be learned by playing them, wiping, learning by mistake, improving etc... And not how some elitists want that people should watch some videos lol .

This was in Ultimate Ballad. Easily learned after couple of wipes.

It's all about farming fast as possible now.

[Nadirah]

FFXIV was the first MMORPG where i saw things like this:

- Did you watch Youtube videos before entering the dungeon
- Did you watch the guides before entering the dungeon

If you response, no i did not? Then you are noob and bad player.

You must have never played WoW.

The *only* game that I've played where this was *not* a thing, was Everquest 2, and that was only because the boss strats were kept secret from everyone until the fights were well outdated.

Unless you had connections in a higher ranked guild, you had to make your own strats, and video guides were near non existent when I played last.

Granted, this was 2012 when I stopped hardcore raiding there, so it may have changed since. We had someone that was friends with a guy in the dev guild on Guk that we got strats and GuildConnect strings from.

[Umo]

Dungeons are supposed to be learned by playing them, wiping, learning by mistake, improving etc...

That 'etc.' should include "Not on Duty Finder".

[Seoulstar]

It is common courtesy to help new players as well. Not everyone can learn from a youtube video. I've watched plenty of videos on a fight..and failed horribly. Then someone explains and and I'm doing much better. People need to stop assuming that a youtube video is the silver bullet.

[Adire]

It is common courtesy to help new players as well. Not everyone can learn from a youtube video. I've watched plenty of videos on a fight..and failed horribly. Then someone explains and and I'm doing much better. People need to stop assuming that a youtube video is the silver bullet.

We have 2 excellent video guide makers.

MTQCapture and MrHappy.

MTQCapture's videos are quick and to the point, may miss some things.

MrHappy's videos are generally long and detailed, as detailed as any explanation can be.

There is really no excuse to go in expecting to be told mechanics. Why hold the group up when you can watch a video like MrHappy's over and over until you have a decent understanding of what you can get without experience?

Never have I been in a dungeon where an explanation from a player has been as organized and detailed as MrHappy's video guides.

[Theonekitten]

We have 2 excellent video guide makers.

MTQCapture

MTQCapture's videos are quick and to the point, may miss some things.

I love her and want to make her my salt wife... <3 MTQCapture

[Alunari]

We have 2 excellent video guide makers.

MTQCapture and MrHappy.

MTQCapture's videos are quick and to the point, may miss some things.

MrHappy's videos are generally long and detailed, as detailed as any explanation can be.

There is really no excuse to go in expecting to be told mechanics. Why hold the group up when you can watch a video like MrHappy's over and over until you have a decent understanding of what you can get without experience?

I always watch the videos by both, they are very good at giving you an idea of the fight, however watching and doing are two different things.

It does make it easier going in with an idea of the fights and what will happen, but it doesn't mean that you are going to be step perfect, videos can help immensely, but nothing beats getting into the fight and putting what you've learnt in the videos into practice ... and it does still take practice.

[Adire]

I always watch the videos by both, they are very good at giving you an idea of the fight, however watching and doing are two different things.

It does make it easier going in with an idea of the fights and what will happen, but it doesn't mean that you are going to be step perfect, videos can help immensely, but nothing beats getting into the fight and putting what you've learnt in the videos into practice ... and it does still take practice.

I noted in my post that videos are not experience. The OP went in for a non-blind run, and expected to be told mechanics when he could have gotten mechanics told to him by a video without wasting the group's time. No one is saying that videos can replace experience, only that videos should be watched in place of asking groups for explanations.

[Baci]

It is common courtesy to help new players as well. Not everyone can learn from a youtube video. I've watched plenty of videos on a fight..and failed horribly. Then someone explains and and I'm doing much better. People need to stop assuming that a youtube video is the silver bullet.

Though its not wrong what you said and I somewhat support you in what you said. How come that some people join a bossfight and just think that other players have to explain the whole thing. Just because they didnt want to read/watch about the Instance?