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    Quote Originally Posted by Shai View Post
    I am talking about the curvature of the chest.
    Are you saying there is no curvature of the chest area on a Highlander compared to a Lala? I highly disagree.
    If you are showing off cleavage in excess, you have designed gear that is curved. It's not just "covering" or something. The entire gear piece has a curve to it to cover the areas. If you want to slap that gear on a man, it will have the same curves to cover his man-boobs.
    The point is that since lalafell are all flat-chested, regardless of gender, the fact that they can fit the gear to a female lalafell proves that not only can they remove that curvature from the bust area of the outfit, but they're in fact already doing so. So they should similarly be able to remove that curvature from the gear when fitting it to a male of any race, just as they already do when fitting it to a lala girl.


    Quote Originally Posted by Terrini View Post
    ...but because it's still considered "strange" these days for a man to wear a dress they don't even bother trying to refit a female dress onto the male form. ... please put in the effort so that males can have something equivalent to it - something that has MALE sex appeal.
    This is what I'd actually prefer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Shikiseki View Post
    The problem is that male outfits are designed to be cool looking and make the wearer look tough but the problem is, many female players want that kind of look as well (which I can understand).
    Tough cool-looking outfits end up being justifiably unisex because both genders want to look tough and cool. The part SE is ignoring, though, is that both genders also want to be able to look sexy. There are a few pieces, like the swimsuits and the Coleseum/Taffeta shawl that both genders have access to, as equivalents in one case and unisex (though with different looks) in the other. But then lately, SE has been designing their "sexy" outfits to be female exclusive.

    Both with the gold saucer outfits and now with the new Thavnairian ones, they made one sexy outfit and one cool outfit and gave the cool outfit to both genders but the sexy one only to females. They made two things in both cases, but the two were never equivalents. The match to a sexy look for one gender isn't a cool outfit for the other gender; it's a sexy outfit for the other gender. Then if they want to make a cool looking outfit as well, that will be for both.

    In the case of the Thavnairian set, it wouldn't take much in the way of adjustments to make it look sexy on a male. Nozomi showed how in her thread on the topic. (I especially liked the last couple examples in her opening post there, the ones that altered the top significantly, but the earlier examples showing a more direct port of the female version only adjusted to fit also look good.) The equivalent of a female bellydancer outfit is a male bellydancer outfit.

    In the case of the Gold Saucer's bunny outfit, a direct adaptation wouldn't work as well (except for the ears, which should be unisex). That would end up pairing a sexy look on females with a comical look on males, which isn't really a proper equivalent. That one would need something else as a corresponding male outfit. Something modeled after Chippendale's dancers would probably make a good playboy bunny equivalent. So in that case, they'd have to design two sets. And yes, designing two sets is more work than designing one, but SE should know that if they're going to design an outfit for half the characters to look sexy, they need one for the other half as well. They shouldn't design the one if they're not willing to design the other.
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    Last edited by Niwashi; 07-18-2015 at 04:11 AM.