Please add STR to Fending accessories

[Alexika]

This post makes me shake my head.

You guys do what you want. Just know this, you are stacking VIT and parry because you can't manage cooldowns properly to do STR gear, you are a detriment to your party. You are actually holding them back. You will never progress and clear content like the top raid groups. Sorry.

[Airget]

Tanks are there to tank. I don't see the need for strength other than to power your way through content quickly which isn't really necessary if you have good DPS.

Yea, mean if they really want the STR then just get the STR accessories and accept the trade off, you lose parry and VIT. A Tanks build should be based on how comfortable they are with their healers and how well they take damage. They should never consider boosting their STR and lowering their HP if it means weakening healer potency and yes it does weaken healer potency because for every HP lost you make Stoneskin that much weaker.

As for suggestion to make the acc a 40 VIT, 20 STR would be OP because every ACC is +40 to x stat, what would balance it is making it 20/20 split but even then maybe SE could consider the idea of offering two accessory types for tanks, one which focus on full VIT and another that offers a 20/20 tradeoff that's meant for offtanks.

[Alexika]

Without the WAR debuffs? When they're tanking different bosses? Or to be more specific, is you PLD friend easily doing 700+ dps?

Tanking different bosses? My Paladin friend and me both go into Ravana, he MTs in Sword Oath and I am in Deliverance, we pull pretty close DPS, my burst is higher but his over time evens it out.

[Khyra]

I just use VIT stuff and don't worry about it, but I won't be doing Alex Savage and so it doesn't really matter.

But people talking about using STR for "threat" --- I mean, yes technically more damage is more enmity, but you shouldn't have any problem whatsoever holding hate in full VIT. Seriously.

I do have some STR gear that I use when killing quest mobs or something, where they can barely damage me and I just want to get it over faster.

[Sapphic]

Tanks are there to tank. I don't see the need for strength other than to power your way through content quickly which isn't really necessary if you have good DPS.

Adding STR to accesories, as crafted, or using striking accs, increases damage thus increases enmity. Also for PLD, Clemency scales off WD and either AP or STR (probably AP of which STR increases anyways), Swapping between my Vit accs and MNK accs on PLD makes a significant difference in the amount healed with Clemency. Thus for PLD it is not all about DPS, same with WAR, harder they hit, the more they heal with certain attacks or buffs active.

Can't comment on DRK as havnt really gone past unlocking it yet. But I assume their attacks which replenish mana or HP scale off damage done.

Thing is OP, all accesories have 1 main stat, you are asking for one to have 2 added. STR and VIT. If they are all classes, all STR melee jobs will use them which would then have all the other jobs wanting VIT on their accs also. Not to mention gear has a stat budget, so would have to be split between STR and VIT making them weaker overall.

So don't hold your breath on it being added. Not saying I disagree, just reality and balance/equality of stat allocation with the other jobs with gear design wouldn't allow it.

[Zfz]

Tanking different bosses? My Paladin friend and me both go into Ravana, he MTs in Sword Oath and I am in Deliverance, we pull pretty close DPS, my burst is higher but his over time evens it out.

You don't do Alexander?

[Alexika]

You don't do Alexander?

I do Alexander (which is a joke, it's not hard at all) with my static, which is a DRK and me as WAR.

[Destomius]

Why are we using Alex (normal) as an example? That kind of content is so easy you can probably clear with 2 DRKs, 2 Astros, and 4 Bards.

[Alexika]

Why are we using Alex (normal) as an example? That kind of content is so easy you can probably clear with 2 DRKs, 2 Astros, and 4 Bards.

8x Warrior in the works probably, too.

[Giantbane]

As for suggestion to make the acc a 40 VIT, 20 STR would be OP because every ACC is +40 to x stat, what would balance it is making it 20/20 split but even then maybe SE could consider the idea of offering two accessory types for tanks, one which focus on full VIT and another that offers a 20/20 tradeoff that's meant for offtanks.

uhh, what? I have no idea how it would be OP.

Tanks can already get crafted stuff that's 30/30. It's not even raid gear (it's i150), doesn't require rare mats and isn't even that hard to craft. For anyone who has access to this type of gear, they love it because they hit hard and they're durable. It's great fun and nobody loses because they can do it. The only thing that sucks is you have to go through the awful materia system to get there. But after you're done, it's pretty cool.

The imbalance is that raid gear, the stuff that's supposed to be BiS doesn't have any STR on it at all.

But people talking about using STR for "threat" --- I mean, yes technically more damage is more enmity, but you shouldn't have any problem whatsoever holding hate in full VIT. Seriously.

Having more threat on a DRK or WAR means you have to do your Powerslash/Butcher's block combo less often. For DRK this means you get more MP back and maybe restore more HP via souleater. For WAR this means greater up time on your 2 debuffs.

I'm guessing PLD now has more options for extra DPS if they can drop the halone combo. Of course whether or not that's advisable depends entirely on if you need that halone debuff or not.