Please add STR to Fending accessories

[Airget]

Tanks are there to tank. I don't see the need for strength other than to power your way through content quickly which isn't really necessary if you have good DPS.

Yea, mean if they really want the STR then just get the STR accessories and accept the trade off, you lose parry and VIT. A Tanks build should be based on how comfortable they are with their healers and how well they take damage. They should never consider boosting their STR and lowering their HP if it means weakening healer potency and yes it does weaken healer potency because for every HP lost you make Stoneskin that much weaker.

As for suggestion to make the acc a 40 VIT, 20 STR would be OP because every ACC is +40 to x stat, what would balance it is making it 20/20 split but even then maybe SE could consider the idea of offering two accessory types for tanks, one which focus on full VIT and another that offers a 20/20 tradeoff that's meant for offtanks.

[Giantbane]

As for suggestion to make the acc a 40 VIT, 20 STR would be OP because every ACC is +40 to x stat, what would balance it is making it 20/20 split but even then maybe SE could consider the idea of offering two accessory types for tanks, one which focus on full VIT and another that offers a 20/20 tradeoff that's meant for offtanks.

uhh, what? I have no idea how it would be OP.

Tanks can already get crafted stuff that's 30/30. It's not even raid gear (it's i150), doesn't require rare mats and isn't even that hard to craft. For anyone who has access to this type of gear, they love it because they hit hard and they're durable. It's great fun and nobody loses because they can do it. The only thing that sucks is you have to go through the awful materia system to get there. But after you're done, it's pretty cool.

The imbalance is that raid gear, the stuff that's supposed to be BiS doesn't have any STR on it at all.

But people talking about using STR for "threat" --- I mean, yes technically more damage is more enmity, but you shouldn't have any problem whatsoever holding hate in full VIT. Seriously.

Having more threat on a DRK or WAR means you have to do your Powerslash/Butcher's block combo less often. For DRK this means you get more MP back and maybe restore more HP via souleater. For WAR this means greater up time on your 2 debuffs.

I'm guessing PLD now has more options for extra DPS if they can drop the halone combo. Of course whether or not that's advisable depends entirely on if you need that halone debuff or not.

[Alexika]

uhh, what? I have no idea how it would be OP.

Tanks can already get crafted stuff that's 30/30. It's not even raid gear (it's i150), doesn't require rare mats and isn't even that hard to craft. For anyone who has access to this type of gear, they love it because they hit hard and they're durable. It's great fun and nobody loses because they can do it. The only thing that sucks is you have to go through the awful materia system to get there. But after you're done, it's pretty cool.

The imbalance is that raid gear, the stuff that's supposed to be BiS doesn't have any STR on it at all.

Then we would have every other class asking or VIT on their accessories. So in reality, it is fine the way it is, get to the minimum HP threshold and then stack STR.

[Giantbane]

Then we would have every other class asking or VIT on their accessories.

You seriously think every other class is going to riot because their tanks can do more damage and hold threat better? I mean, I know the community can be a little petty sometimes but this would be over the top.

Was every other class complaining when they gave healers +accuracy on their gear for free?

[Alexika]

You seriously think every other class is going to riot because their tanks can do more damage and hold threat better? I mean, I know the community can be a little petty sometimes but this would be over the top.

Was every other class complaining when they gave healers +accuracy on their gear for free?

Yes, yes I do. When FCoB came out other jobs were having to wear crafted so they could add VIT to it. Healers trying to get to 6K+ or more. Probably going to see a repeat of that, why would they not want a free option rather than spend the gil?

But please, drop the hold threat aspect of this. A VIT tank is not going to struggle with threat unless he is with a very aggressive playing OT, such as in my old static, where I could rip hate off him without Defiance doing just SE and SP combos. Otherwise, no one was even close.

[Giantbane]

Yes, yes I do. When FCoB came out other jobs were having to wear crafted so they could add VIT to it. Healers trying to get to 6K+ or more. Probably going to see a repeat of that, why would they not want a free option rather than spend the gil?

But please, drop the hold threat aspect of this. A VIT tank is not going to struggle with threat unless he is with a very aggressive playing OT, such as in my old static, where I could rip hate off him without Defiance doing just SE and SP combos. Otherwise, no one was even close.

Having more threat on a DRK or WAR means you have to do your Powerslash/Butcher's block combo less often. For DRK this means you get more MP back and maybe restore more HP via souleater. For WAR this means greater up time on your 2 debuffs.

I'm guessing PLD now has more options for extra DPS if they can drop the halone combo. Of course whether or not that's advisable depends entirely on if you need that halone debuff or not.

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[Alexika]

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My Dark barely uses his enmity combo and he tanks without Grit up. Butchers is the highest potency combo, so you have nothing there. And you completely failed to address what I said, VIT tanks will have zero issue with threat anyway, the only time any tank has issue with threat is at the very opening of the fight, and STR won't give you that much more of a lead.

[Symbiant]

You seriously think every other class is going to riot because their tanks can do more damage and hold threat better? I mean, I know the community can be a little petty sometimes but this would be over the top.

Was every other class complaining when they gave healers +accuracy on their gear for free?

Never underestimate how self centered a lot of people can be.

We already have people crying about how much dps a war can do and some even calling for a nerf.

People want feel like they have a bigger e-peen which is why you are even having this discussion to begin with.

In the end people want to say "oh I do it for the group" but realistically they do it so they can make the e-peen grow.

Everyone watching the dps seeing who can do the most and talking smack about it in raid chat. It's quite comical tbh.