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    Tsenno Se'senovoto
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    For the most part as a healer DRK should focus on vitality. There should never be a point such as the one last night where I zone into A4 with a DRK with 12.9k health and a DRG with 12.3k health and the DRK was requesting to main tank. I am sorry but if you have only 600 more health than a dps because you have all str accessories (and the only gear they had at 180) you shouldn't be tanking a even ladybug.
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    Kori Fleming
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vrankyl View Post
    For the most part as a healer DRK should focus on vitality. There should never be a point such as the one last night where I zone into A4 with a DRK with 12.9k health and a DRG with 12.3k health and the DRK was requesting to main tank. I am sorry but if you have only 600 more health than a dps because you have all str accessories (and the only gear they had at 180) you shouldn't be tanking a even ladybug.
    That DRK has significantly more defense and magic defense than that DRG. It also has defensive CDs to mitigate damage. If health were everything, why let DRK or PLD MT at all? Surely WAR is the best MT, what with all that health they have.
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    Kinako Kuromitsu
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    Fisher Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    That DRK has significantly more defense and magic defense than that DRG. It also has defensive CDs to mitigate damage. If health were everything, why let DRK or PLD MT at all? Surely WAR is the best MT, what with all that health they have.
    This argument only works with a static that is well practiced and knows what they are doing.

    Whether you intended to or not, and without saying it, you are making the "minimum HP to survive a tank buster" argument here. Essentially if you have enough HP to survive the boss's tank buster plus an auto attack or follow-up, then any more HP than that is "wasted" and should go to STR. This is true... but only for a group with good players that don't make mistakes.

    12.9k HP in a duty finder A4 is NOT acceptable. The DPS will make many mistakes and the healers aren't necessarily great at their jobs. For those reasons, you NEED an HP buffer. Last week I went in with 15.5k HP, and the healers were struggling even when I used CDs perfectly because they were having to account for DPS making mistakes, taking damage and dying.

    I always carry my STR acc with me, but I equip the VIT ones by default and only swap if it seems safe to.
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    Player Ceodore's Avatar
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    Ulf Hednasch
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan94 View Post
    This argument only works with a static that is well practiced and knows what they are doing.

    Whether you intended to or not, and without saying it, you are making the "minimum HP to survive a tank buster" argument here. Essentially if you have enough HP to survive the boss's tank buster plus an auto attack or follow-up, then any more HP than that is "wasted" and should go to STR. This is true... but only for a group with good players that don't make mistakes.

    12.9k HP in a duty finder A4 is NOT acceptable. The DPS will make many mistakes and the healers aren't necessarily great at their jobs. For those reasons, you NEED an HP buffer. Last week I went in with 15.5k HP, and the healers were struggling even when I used CDs perfectly because they were having to account for DPS making mistakes, taking damage and dying.

    I always carry my STR acc with me, but I equip the VIT ones by default and only swap if it seems safe to.
    This^ this ^ and allllll thiiissss^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Though to be fair, if a tank doesn't know when to switch trinkets, a VIT and STR swap isn't going to be the difference between a win and a n "Lol, you dead, game over, you lose, git gud"
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    Last edited by Ceodore; 07-17-2015 at 11:05 AM.

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    Valoiz Valentine
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    Goblin
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    Astrologian Lv 74
    Quote Originally Posted by SpookyGhost View Post
    That DRK has significantly more defense and magic defense than that DRG. It also has defensive CDs to mitigate damage. If health were everything, why let DRK or PLD MT at all? Surely WAR is the best MT, what with all that health they have.
    I heal a DRK yesterday (Fractal) with only 12k hp and was terrible. Adds hit him betwen 7.5k (skills he doesnt dodge) / 3.5k and 2k. So 7.5k + 3.5 consecutive hits = dead... I didnt saw a parry on my log during all the dungeon (he prolly did some but i cant find any).... even more sad... when he died MNK grab the boss and was easier to heal (11k hp- lol?) all cuz he had STR jewelry and adds at his back btw....
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    Last edited by Valoiz; 07-18-2015 at 12:48 AM.