I really want to enjoy these 3.0 leveling dungeons but....

[Dualblade]

Yeah, I don't understand why people have issues with AV. It's really not that hard.

If I remember right its a combination of what AV was like in 1.0 (which is also where the DD hate comes from too I think), and when 2.0 intially came out AV had a good bit of lag too for everyone. Might have been something else too involved with it beyond Coincounter. At the very least by the time I started in 2.1 it was better even if it left a bad taste in many player's mouths.

[ShaneDawn]

Yeah, I don't understand why people have issues with AV. It's really not that hard.

It's only really a pain with a new tank. They tend to chain pull several packs and kill the party, and especially eat the mechanics on the 2nd boss, getting insta-gibbed. Still, I'm a patient person and I always tell them how to deal with the dungeon, but sometimes people don't listen. ^^'

[repoe]

3.88 exp required from 59 to 60. The level 59 dungeon gives 500k exp per run. Not including bonus. That 7ish runs, the lesser dungeons scale down accordingly. But it's easy. Unless you want to level alone at which point mmo why?

[Ruri]

It's insanely quicker to lvl gathering and crafting 50-60 than it is dps. Like a ton easier.

[CorbinDallas]

Yeah, I don't understand why people have issues with AV. It's really not that hard.

It's not that it's hard, I just hate being level synced and losing my abilities. That and I just find the whole aesthetic of the dungeon really...urgh. Whereas you've got the Heavensward dungeons with fun mechanics, no sync (while levelling), aesthetically pleasing environments and monsters (Bibliothing, last boss of Library <3), and level appropriate loot.

To cut it short, I prefer to have fun, not be as efficient as possible.

[Zari]

There are lot of people who seem to not know or forget that they meant for 50-60 to take about as long (if not a little less) than 1-50, so of course you wont be getting a level every dungeon run or two.

[Rover1983]

is it even possible with such pitiful exp rewards? I'm pretty sure Aurum vale gives more exp than most of the 51+ dungeons which is really sad considering the monsters in the 51+ dungeons also take twice as long to kill. Hopefully we get some big exp buffs in 3.1 to make them at least worth running over the level sync'd ones.

People 50+ are running AV for exp? That's news to me. I know once the Vault opens up, people are running that and its good exp which is great. Group content SHOULD provide more exp then questing/soloing. Logic wins here. You fight more difficult shit, the rewards should be greater.

[fm_fenrir]

People 50+ are running AV for exp? That's news to me. I know once the Vault opens up, people are running that and its good exp which is great. Group content SHOULD provide more exp then questing/soloing. Logic wins here. You fight more difficult shit, the rewards should be greater.

But it's not "great", it's "okay". A seedling is worth 2351XP, compared to a Halonic whatever in the Vault giving ~3500XP. Look at the time it takes to burn down the entire seedbed, versus killing an equal number of Halonic trash in the Vault, and you can see why the effort/reward ratio favors AV.

Edit: Also, it's a problem that Dust Vigil and the Aery are complete trash compared to just running AV or low roulette, and your first real equivalent dungeon is the Vault.

[OnizukaBR]

Its really easy and fast leveling only using the last HW dungeon available to you, and you get yourself with the best equips you could get at your level, i dont know why people are complaining, you want to do the dungeon 2 times and level up ?

[Reinfeld]

Its really easy and fast leveling only using the last HW dungeon available to you, and you get yourself with the best equips you could get at your level, i dont know why people are complaining, you want to do the dungeon 2 times and level up ?

No, but I would at least like them to be a more efficient method of leveling than dungeons 4-8 levels below them. The problem is that the 100% armory bonus sub-50 makes AV better than both Dusk Vigil and Sohm Al with their 50% bonus.