Instead of gear loss how about a less harsh outcome?

[Venat]

I rather have blink of death on the first KO then decreassed armor.

[darkstarpoet1]

it's funny i see the same people supporting this change as they did the other crafting change. the funny part is one change it needed to be changed because getting all mats needed for gear took too long so that needed to be removed. now it is ok for this system to go in that completely destroys your gear because it makes them feel like they earned something. it seems getting the same gear items multiple times you would be against since you were against getting all the parts for a few attempts on the old system.

i do have one question on the materia system though. is adding the materia going to be a synth like it was to upgrade from one item to another or will it be just a put materials in and the game does it by itself on a random completion?

if it's the first option i won't mind as much due to the fact at least it would be the crafters skill on getting the item completed, but if it's pure luck randomized then i really have issues with it.

[Kafeen]

while i agree gil sinks are good, i don't think this can effect most the rich people, they most likely have everything rank 50 to boot, like me lol. i'll still be able to dol my stuff, hq my gear and get my catalysts all without any helps, least till they raise ranks in game. though i do think most of u guys with everything rank 50 don't have dol's 50 outside of fishing l"cough cough sounds like u botted" cough cough, go level botany and miner cough cough" lmao. so yeah this might acually take some gils from the rich, but i don't think will be that bad. but i'ma enjoy it too if it's like this, it will give everyone something to do again.

If you have the time and patients to farm everything you need to craft every weapon and gain full attachment to make all the materia you'll need to get to T5 without buying anything then good luck to you.

[Synthesis]

They are doing this to boost the economy. By destroying gear, gears will be in huge demand, when gears keeps moving, it means raw materials will be moving as well, It helps the game's economy tremendously by removing currently overflowed gil and overstocked raw materials.

No one is telling you to attach your Crab Bow +3, you don't need to risk the gear you worked hard for. it's all about option, do you wanna play safe? or do you wanna strive for perfection?

This, it needs to be like this. I agree.

[Royal]

The Dark Side...
Much remains unknown about materia and its full potential. There are dark whispers, however, that tell of a forbidden branch of the craft that leads to power beyond imagining…but only at great cost.

The forbidden branch may decrease the odds of failure. Not to mention traits may be implemented to lower the odds of failure. Who knows how they will implement it. It may be with every craft there is a trait that lowers failure by 5% and with all crafts the odds of failure for 5th materia is 25%. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

[Arcell]

The forbidden branch may decrease the odds of failure. Not to mention traits may be implemented to lower the odds of failure. Who knows how they will implement it. It may be with every craft there is a trait that lowers failure by 5% and with all crafts the odds of failure for 5th materia is 25%. WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

The forbidden branch is attaching more than a single materia. This was originally used in reference to slotting more than one materia when it was first announced.

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...l=1#post162041

Finally, rumors tell of a forbidden technique with a high risk of failure to attach another materia to an item that already has a materia attached to it…

We don't know the failure %s but I would imagine it would be pretty high.

[Yoohre_WildRiver]

soo people ask for gil sink.. SE makes an awsome way to sink gil i would call it a Gil Vortex, the ppl are angry cause the out come it to harsh..

rinse repeat...rinse repeat..

i like this system, if you got a crab bow+3 and you feel the edge and wanna try to get that +5 materia, go for it, if not stay with your +2 materia, no one is forcing you

[Royal]

Players who have met certain requirements can obtain the more advanced ”augmented materia melder,” which allows the attachment of up to five pieces of materia per item. Players can never fail to attach the first piece of materia. However, the success rate progressively decreases with each subsequent piece of materia. A failed attempt to attach materia will result in the loss of all items involved in the process, barring the key item.

Source - http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/277

@Arcell. I thought the augmented materia welder adds 2-5 materia. I guess the forbidden technique is performed using the augmented materia welder? Is that everyone's assumption?

[Delmontyb]

Personally it will depend on success rates, for players to get a feel of if the risk is worth the reward. (Assuming the success rates of each addition of materia below

1. 100%
2. 80%
3. 60%
4. 40%
5 20%

(This is just a random guess)

By default, you'll see players try on lower level gear, so eventually we could see a lot of 5 materia pieced gear for sale on the market, which will give players with the gil something to buy rather then having to put in the time and effort.

I still have to withhold judgement on the system until I get my hands on it.