So about the "warrior of darkness" [spoiler]

[WyrahFhurrst]

Then he is a representation of the WoL. xD
No such thing that he is and he is not hahahaha.

Oh, there certainly is. In one medium (meaning the not-game videos), he is a representation for every player character. In the other (the actual game), he is his own character, having survived Carteneau and is now going around on his own adventures. He can be both, and as Fernhalwes has stated, his is both.

[Frederick22]

All I just wanted to said before if you cant say is him just beacuse you see there. There lot of questiosns and lots if unlogical things going on there.

[Kallera]

All I just wanted to said before if you cant say is him just beacuse you see there. There lot of questiosns and lots if unlogical things going on there.

So unless there is a textbox naming him derplander you aren't convinced? Horsehockey. It's obvious SE is not going to call him derplander.

The figure is derplander, what it means(is it symbolic and the wod takes on many faces, or literal as its literally derplander from the cutscene movies) is up in the air though.

[Kaiser-Ace]

All I just wanted to said before if you cant say is him just beacuse you see there. There lot of questiosns and lots if unlogical things going on there.

How many times do we have to say Derplander is a nickname. The only reason Fern and Yoshi-P started calling him that was because everyone else does.

The WoD has a as of yet unrevealed name. When we clash blades with the WoD we'll know once and for all who he is. But the fact that he has the same character model is an undenyable fact.

[saber_alter]

All I just wanted to said before if you cant say is him just beacuse you see there. There lot of questiosns and lots if unlogical things going on there.

Derplander is a nickname the community gave him because of the derpy expressions he makes in the cgs.

For now however, he is likely a placeholder for the real WoD.

[Alberel]

Quoting my own post since people are making arguments that I've already covered.

People need to stop looking at Derplander as a character and realise that he's a symbol to represent all of us players. In the canon story outside of player involvement Derplander is the WoL. When you play you are essentially substituting him with your own character. There are other WoLs besides ourselves (and I believe Ysayle's use of a crystal of light in 3.0 was a big hint that she may have been one herself) but we/derplander are the most powerful.

The use of Derplander to represent the WoD should entail the same symbolism. He is likely just a symbol to represent the group of WoDs. Whether that makes the WoDs our doppelgangers or not remains to be seen. Based on what we know, all we can deduce is that he is representative of the Warriors of Darkness. People suggesting Derplander has switched sides and become the WoD have misunderstood what Derplander actually represents.

Yes, Ferne said that Derplander is an actual character as per this quote:

But that still leaves one question—was the party an actual party, or were they merely symbols meant to represent you, the players? Well, you can breathe easy knowing they are both. They all ventured into Eorzea at the same time as you did. They all did similar quests, and lived through similar adventures. They exist as your characters exist (in a virtual world-sort of existence). The fact that you haven’t come across them is probably the same reason you haven’t come across my character, Amanda Hugginkyss (or maybe you have? /wink). They’re just somewhere else. Though, maybe you’ll stumble across their party in the future. Or maybe you won’t. How’s that for committing to an answer?

The thing is Ferne explicitly compares him to other player characters. He is a real character in the same way all of your characters are. He is not an NPC and Ferne was fairly clear in that through his repeated references to player avatars. That makes Derplander a pretty generic player character. The reason you haven't met him is because he's on another server or he never logs in at the same time as you. That is what Ferne was saying.

I think the point Ferne was making was that Derplander is real in so far as the events depicted in the trailers with that character actually happen, but it is just to give a canon perspective to events outside of making a unique trailer for every single person playing the game. Derplander's involvement in the events in Ul'dah during the 3.0 launch trailer make it pretty clear that he is the Warrior of Light in all game media. There was no other WoL involved in that part of the story and that is not a generic event to depict. He was there with the scions and fled to Ishgard. That makes it plainly obvious that we are replacing Derplander with our own character when we play.

The 'Derplander of Darkness' on the moon cannot be the same Derplander we've seen in all game media because if he followed the MSQ as we did (and the trailers make it clear that he does) then he is not on the moon, he is in Ishgard with Aymeric working out what to do to stop Nidhogg since he possessed Estinien. At any given moment Derplander is doing whatever we players are doing. If we haven't done it then Derplander hasn't done it. It really is that simple.

With the WoD on the moon very obviously not the Derplander we know the only other options are that he is a separate character who just looks like Derplander (which I personally find unlikely) or that he is being used as a dark mirror of Derplander to represent the Warriors of Darkness exactly as Derplander represents us Warriors of Light in all media (which is what I believe him to be).

[Kallera]

I hope he is symbolic, the chance to have variations of our rival character would be so cool.

[myahele]

For purposes of consistency, you can interpret the trailers as him reliving the WoL's memories through the Echo which, I've been told, it was capable of in 1.0.

I don't know if you can consider most of the HW trailer canon anyway since I'm assuming it reflects an earlier iteration of the plot in which Nidhogg and Hraesvelgar had their positions reversed. Not surprising considering it took 12-18 months to make.

Oh! That's a pretty good theory we know that derplander likes to echo jump.

In either case, I do believe that the WoL in 1.0 did have their own adventures. Maybe they tried to help, but our character ended up defeating XYZ before they could. Forgotten by the world and no longer needed because "Hydaelyn's Chosen" is doing everything, that's when Elidibus approached them?

He or they might be WoD, but I don't think they'll do things for the evulz. They're working with Elidibus the same way Urianger is working with Elidibus.

[Frederick22]

your last comment.

Thank you man, at least someone see reason here and post a well reforced comment with everything is needed to know.

So unless there is a textbox naming him derplander you aren't convinced? Horsehockey. It's obvious SE is not going to call him derplander.
The figure is derplander, what it means(is it symbolic and the wod takes on many faces, or literal as its literally derplander from the cutscene movies) is up in the air though.

How many times do we have to say Derplander is a nickname. The only reason Fern and Yoshi-P started calling him that was because everyone else does.
The WoD has a as of yet unrevealed name. When we clash blades with the WoD we'll know once and for all who he is. But the fact that he has the same character model is an undenyable fact.

Derplander is a nickname the community gave him because of the derpy expressions he makes in the cgs.
For now however, he is likely a placeholder for the real WoD.

You see you all are denying this? I just tried to explain something, withouth any issue and you all start to saying something totally offtopic and nonsence, withouth any importance. If you guys wanna bee in your denyal and stick to your "truth" then fine. Im done here and I have said thanks that some here posted a stronger argument with better evidence than mine.

[Eul]

Isn't the derplander become dragoon in opening cutscene? Or is this the dark side of derplander when he become warrior?