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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    REALLY ? that is news to me because I main WAR and we just got new TANKING COOLDOWNS (raw intuition, equilibrium) that are VERY strong.. For example, Equilibrium is a 1200 potency self heal based on strength that can be used with Berserk to heal for (currently) 10,000+HP ............ Raw intuition is 20 seconds of frontal 20% damage reduction, combined with Vengeance that is 50, happens to combine with inner beast and other cooldowns as well along with granting a wraith stack (in Defiance inner beast still is a cooldown) .......... sorry warriors are the best hybrid of a tank that can DPS now.


    oh we also have the most hp in defiance, in deliverance we do the most dps of all tanks. Sooo turning reality laughingly upsidedown on it's head and saying warrior is now a DPS , and "not Tank" happens to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen here.
    ridiculous thing when you have deliverance and you still want to tank with defiance
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    WAR strengths:
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    Made it this far before losing my shit. Man, I need to sleep more... +1'd though.
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    Titan Egi, duh.
    Silly. It's Topaz Carbuncle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaS View Post
    REALLY ? that is news to me because I main WAR and we just got new TANKING COOLDOWNS (raw intuition, equilibrium) that are VERY strong.. For example, Equilibrium is a 1200 potency self heal based on strength that can be used with Berserk to heal for (currently) 10,000+HP ............ Raw intuition is 20 seconds of frontal 20% damage reduction, combined with Vengeance that is 50, happens to combine with inner beast and other cooldowns as well along with granting a wraith stack (in Defiance inner beast still is a cooldown) .......... sorry warriors are the best hybrid of a tank that can DPS now.


    oh we also have the most hp in defiance, in deliverance we do the most dps of all tanks. Sooo turning reality laughingly upsidedown on it's head and saying warrior is now a DPS , and "not Tank" happens to be the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen here.
    Pro-tip: You can't parry Magic damage. Raw Intuition is useless against tankbusters which are Magic. If you wish to experiment with this, go to A4 and pop Raw Intuition before Discoid and see what happens.

    I don't dislike Raw Intuition but it's intended to be situational. Meanwhile every PLD CD happily works on every damage type because their CDs straight up reduce % incoming damage, Physical vs. Magic is irrelevant to a PLD. WAR was given a new CD which doesn't work on Magic and certain DRK CDs don't work on Physical. In general, it's likely this is intentional because PLD is the "Chosen One" that is supposed to be MT and WAR and DARK are always supposed to be OT. Thanks Yoshi.
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    Last edited by Illya; 07-14-2015 at 06:20 PM.

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    I thought the only tank is PLD.
    DRK and WAR are DPS. Enough said.
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    That's a pretty good post, Kiteless. Though, I would've listed Testosterone as a weakness...

    DRK feels really close to being a good tank to me. I think if parry was more impressive, it would be a shiny good class, but yeah it's definitely the "weakest" of the three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illya View Post
    Meanwhile every PLD CD happily works on every damage type because their CDs straight up reduce % incoming damage, Physical vs. Magic is irrelevant to a PLD.
    Bulwark and Sheltron don't work on magic damage.

    Also you completely lose your shield vs magic, which is one of the main draws of PLD mitigation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Srab View Post
    ridiculous thing when you have deliverance and you still want to tank with defiance
    pretty much sums up war players now, there dps players with a few tank traits...full strength acc, stood in deliverance so have about the same hp as a geared melee, no healing bonus..rather use fell cleave over IB...and its not even an OT thing, they do it as MT aswell, SE should just drop them as tanks and move them to the dps class...leave drk and pld as the real tanks
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    Or they could just... you know, let the bad WARs die off and let the good WARs continue business as usual.
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    Blanitar Abarhyrsyn
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    Many people often underestimate just how good a good DRK will be. DRK receive a bad reputation because currently there are ALOT of bad DRK out there. DRK mitigation is only slightly lower than PLD but they are more than capable of handling all the current content without placing alot of added stress on the healers. In addition their damage output in tanking stance far exceeds that of the other tanks. For example if you look at the dual boss setup of A1: Both tanks will be required to act in the roll of MT allowing for direct comparisons of tanks in a fight. With a DRK/PLD setup you can see that the DRK will consistently pull 100-200 dps more than the other tank while maintaining a similar level of mitigation (although slightly lower).

    DRK is the farming tank, PLD is the progression tank, and WAR is the beastly OT. When you have content on farm status and you don't need the extra mitigation then DRK will be the preferred tank due to higher MT dmg output.
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    Last edited by Nabian; 07-14-2015 at 08:22 PM.

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