Fending vs. Slaying accessories at this point in the game

[Illya]

Eh, I was just giving an example of where it would be nice to have extra VIT. I don't think I've ever eaten all 3 balls when MTing because of how scary the missiles are. When OTing though people expect me to eat 3 balls and I'll be goddamned if I'm going to be in VIT gear while I'm the OT in that fight.

[AnimaS]

No it takes the entire raid contributing to DPS.

A tank HAS to hit the mob, why wouldn't they hit them as hard as the fight allows them to?

There are exactly 0 fights in the game that require 17000 HP even in the worst of PUGs.

Xeno might have a full set of Fending accessories but I know for a fact any tank with his kind of knowledge would never use a full fending set in todays game. He might mix and match 1-3 into a build for some odd reason but he knows better then to go full fending. NEVER GO FULL FENDING.

I 100% agree statics help, buts that's why people use hybrids. When I PUG Ravana I use i150 Hybrids even though I'm over the HP cap by 3k it gives PUG healers room, I also use shield oath/defiance in PUGs which I use only as needed in my static.

100% TRUE tanks MUST CONTRIBUTE TO DPS (this is incidentally why Warrior can now do massive DPS) to MEET DPS CHECKS!

[AnimaS]

Any tank that does raids understands VITALITY is important up to a *Level* and beyond that DAMAGE takes over. Vitality does not meet dps checks, it does not execute mechanics, it does not even help healers in bulk since in EASY mode of Alexander 4 any tank with any Vitality (it could be maxed) is going to DIE to the tank buster unless it's mitigated and killed FASTER as it gains power every time it goes off, so the next tank buster is more potent......... The way you stop this is extra damage to kill the boss before he kills you. Anyone That believes otherwise has not raided and cannot be taken seriously.

[rawker]

Balls in A4 isn't really scary unless you take them on without getting healed in between. It doesn't change whether you are in full Fending or Slaying. Getting hit by a single ball doesn't equate to a 1 hit KO. If you have Defiance on and currently infuriated, you can heal that damage instantly. That is of course, if you are on ball duty. As either PLD or DRK, you can blow your defensive CDs and dive at them balls. The only difference between DRK and PLD is that the latter can heal themselves in between. You just have to tell your healers that you're going to heal yourself thus saving the healers a GCD or two from healing you and spend it on the MT or the Derp-P-S.

[Krixus]

As a healer I always check tanks and cry when they have all str accessories. You can still keep them alive but it is quite noticibly more difficult. In dungeons and easy stuff its fine. And I don't mind half and half either on harder stuff. Full str accessories just makes it so healers can't really dps much.

[SpookyGhost]

As a healer I always check tanks and cry when they have all str accessories. You can still keep them alive but it is quite noticibly more difficult. In dungeons and easy stuff its fine. And I don't mind half and half either on harder stuff. Full str accessories just makes it so healers can't really dps much.

How's that?

[dragoelete]

How's that?

when they have full str gear it is noticeable when they screw up cause you will be haveing a rlly hard time keeping up with healing if they don't pop a defense CD...

[SpookyGhost]

when they have full str gear it is noticeable when they screw up cause you will be haveing a rlly hard time keeping up with healing if they don't pop a defense CD...

That's less to do with full STR and more to do with their ability to play their tank properly. :V Extra health is good for bads, though, so I partially agree.

[dragoelete]

exactly and wit how most DF groups are you have to expect a healer to feel like they died a little inside every time they see a full str tank...

[Sapphidia]

Is it worth pentamelding the current i150 HQ white items?

They're definitely better all round than any mix of Str/Vit 180 asuran items (a full set of i150 stuff should be the same Vit/Str levels as wearing 4 slaying AND 4 fending 180s), but I'm wondering if there were revealed plans that higher level crafted accessories would come in the next patch or two.