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  1. #101
    Player
    Stormgale's Avatar
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    Arash'li Tayuun
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    Cerberus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Edellis View Post
    If you've got any casters (you do) in your party (or a Ninja, or a WHM who can DPS, or any healer who knows how to dot ), and you give them all access to a 5~10% or 10~20% damage buff for free, is that really a "for nothing" situation?

    I realize this is more a bard thing, but i don't get why people always exclude that
    Of course this doesn't apply (as in they dont do support DPS) to ninja's trick attack + goad which is arguable more powerful because?

    Or summoners res and super virus allowing your healers to DPS more?

    Or crit buff of Dragoon and Piercing up?
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  2. #102
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    NorthernLadMSP's Avatar
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    Character
    Adore Mi
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    While you're at it, please add Astrologian to the funeral arrangements.
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  3. #103
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Character
    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Necro bump just to point out that MCH are doing just fine in Alexander and everywhere else. As expected.

    Cleared A4 last night, watching crit numbers on Clean Shots and Heartbreaks rise up to ridonkulous numbers. Loving Gauss, and nearly full timing it (I still drop it for add phase of A3, mainly for speed). 1-2-1-3-2-3 with buffs weaved in leaves my seat sticky. . .

    Bring on Savage.
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  4. #104
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    ArtesMan's Avatar
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    Character
    Artes Man
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    Adamantoise
    Main Class
    Lancer Lv 37
    Let's hope they get a buff ASAP

    Seems like a fun class now that bard has had this strange playstyle change.
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  5. #105
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
    World
    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    MCH are doing fine because of the buff to GB. We wouldn't be doing as well if that didn't happen.

    Right now, I'm actually wondering how savage will be. I do find that AoEs kill our dos quite a bit. For example, on Bis Ex, I've taken to dropping GB altogether during third phase (and sometimes second) because of all the AoE and tornadoes we have to dodge. Not to mention killing bubbles. I tried it once using GB full time and ended up at 588 dps, which was crap.
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  6. #106
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    ThirdChild_ZKI's Avatar
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Ryaz View Post
    MCH are doing fine because of the buff to GB. We wouldn't be doing as well if that didn't happen.

    Right now, I'm actually wondering how savage will be. I do find that AoEs kill our dos quite a bit. For example, on Bis Ex, I've taken to dropping GB altogether during third phase (and sometimes second) because of all the AoE and tornadoes we have to dodge. Not to mention killing bubbles. I tried it once using GB full time and ended up at 588 dps, which was crap.
    Yeah Bis Ex is another one of those situations where I'm forced to drop Gauss purely to keep up. Overall though, it took some adaptation, some practice, and a lot of getting used to, but Machinist is beginning to feel just as comfortable to me as Bard once did (and still does so far.)
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  7. #107
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    Ryaz's Avatar
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    Ryaz Darksbane
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Yeah Bis Ex is another one of those situations where I'm forced to drop Gauss purely to keep up. Overall though, it took some adaptation, some practice, and a lot of getting used to, but Machinist is beginning to feel just as comfortable to me as Bard once did (and still does so far.)
    I agree. I cleared A1-A4 the first day and the tank I played with was impressed at my damage. He was one of those people worried about MCH due to the stigma. We need to work hard to overcome it. Even with my crappy showing on Bismarck, I was still 2nd on the dps chart at least, so I wasn't a complete failure. Lol.
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  8. #108
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    Grimm08's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Character
    Grimmjow Jaggerjaques
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 60
    In every single fight that I have been in with my static, in which our BRD changed to MCH, he pulls: 1. The highest/second highest opener; 2. consistently high numbers (1000/1100+). The class was not killed in any way by the buffs/nerfs to their abilities.
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  9. #109
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    Shneibel Panipahr
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Alchemist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ThirdChild_ZKI View Post
    Yeah Bis Ex is another one of those situations where I'm forced to drop Gauss purely to keep up. Overall though, it took some adaptation, some practice, and a lot of getting used to, but Machinist is beginning to feel just as comfortable to me as Bard once did (and still does so far.)
    you dont have to drop GB in bismark ex for any reason, there are 2 sweet spot you can stand in bismark ex w/O effect by tornado.
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  10. #110
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    Character
    Maelor Tormren
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Pugilist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Hypie View Post
    lessee how far you come with that 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 OH OH OOOOOOOOOH I GOT A PROCC! aw no procc for the third skill.....1-1-1-1-1-1-1....
    This is not even close to how mch plays out. procs happen PLENTY often enough that its worth playing even without reload or Q reload. Try again.
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