I chose BRD for swift gameplay, if I wanted to cast I would have chosen a Mage.

[Zyrusticae]

Ironically, your own argument can be used against you and your side.

Many whiners are attempting to speak for all BRD players, saying the new playstyle choices "aren't fun". I've been running Alex on my BRD and been doing just fine, having a blast. To me, WM is perfectly "fun".

Your opinion is visibly a minority and largely meaningless in the face of the mass bard exodus that has occurred since 3.0.

In case you didn't know, Bard went from the single most popular job to the second-LEAST popular after Machinist. When a little over half of the players are straight-up jumping ship, you know you dun goofed.

(On the flipside, Summoner suddenly being so popular could be a bunch of people bandwagoning, or just a bunch of people drawn to it by Akh Morn, and who could blame them?)

[Kaedan94]

Your opinion is visibly a minority and largely meaningless in the face of the mass bard exodus that has occurred since 3.0.

LOL

Ahh, the age old fallacy of "I see more people complaining about it than not".

Firstly, that's anecdotal. Personally, I've seen far more people fine with/ok/liking the new mechanics than I've seen complain about it. So which one of us is correct? The answer is neither.

Secondly, the forums in no way represent the majority, nor can you determine what the vast majority feel from the forums.

Thirdly, people who are upset about something are far, far more vocal than people content. People are far more likely to make a post and whine about something than make a post and praise something. That's why even with the most successful games in history, their forums are filled with nothing but vitriol... because the people who are actually content with the game are PLAYING the game, and the people not are whining about it.

tl;dr No. If anyone can be said to be a vocal minority, it's anyone whining about anything on the forums.

[Nestama]

In case you didn't know, Bard went from the single most popular job to the second-LEAST popular after Machinist. When a little over half of the players are straight-up jumping ship, you know you dun goofed.

Pretty sure 3091 votes barely counts as 1% of the FFXIV community.

[Kaedan94]

Pretty sure 3091 votes barely counts as 1% of the FFXIV community.

Actually, it's 0.001% (and that's being nice, rounding up). ^_^

Plus there's huge self-select bias, rendering any statistical relevance NULL.

[Nestama]

Too nice. You could be meaner.

I'm also sure some BLM's have changed to BRD (or SMN) because BRD doesn't have to deal with the frustrations of Enochian.

[nuyu11]

I've met some Bard that like new change, but for me the change game play is so hard to accept. I'm mostly using WM now because that is the best DPS for me but I'm not have the feel like the bard that I used to like.

[Vespar]

Not speaking for anyone but myself here but, I still dislike the change for my own personal fun factor. While I dislike it, I think it would be less of a bother to me if WM could at the very least be set to a 6 second recast so we could actually stance dance when necessary, which depending on the fight can be quite often. (6secs would be the same as cleric stance's cooldown for WHM) Currently it is 15sec recast time. So we are unable to toggle it off for 15seconds. In that time I could be running around, dodging aoe's unable to perform any dmg because I got stuck in WM.

Yes, I realize the argument of learning the content will eventually help with that overtime. But that's part of why the fun factor has been lost for me. Until I learn the content, WM is cumbersome and annoying to use in some fights, and therefore I find myself playing Bard less and less and less, and playing DRG or another class more often, because I just don't have to worry about it.

Perhaps when I get more familiar with the ebb and flow of the fights, I will return to using Bard but the flip side is, by that time I may have been pushed so far away from Bard that I will no longer care to play it all. (which is already whats happening with me now)

[Wavaryen]

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The point is, that no one can tell the other person what is fun and what is not to them. In this thread, People are forcing their views down each other throat. For both the side that finds it fun and the side that does not.


The question of fun can only be answer by yourself. Trying to tell someone they are wrong because I am having fun. Get good, is pointless.

I don't care about the numbers, I don't care about what you enjoy of the class. What I care about is my own enjoyment and what the class turned into. The fact they did not give more choices in support options, and advance what many love about the job, to a hit or miss play style is my problem. We can only speak for ourselves, is all I am saying.

[Mikedizzy]

I am having fun with the new play style of Bard. I like the changes made to WM and the increase in damage as well. Mobility is not hindered that much in my opinion. I Burst, then stay in one spot and side step dodge when able and then just turn off WM if I need more mobility. I like the way Bard is turning out even though I was really pissed off at first. For me it took time and getting use to it to get better.

[Zyrusticae]

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While you are correct on these points, you are still in the minority here. Polls speak for themselves. From most popular to second least popular among DPS classes cannot be construed as a coincidence.

Pretty sure 3091 votes barely counts as 1% of the FFXIV community.

Take some statistics classes. You only need a sample size in the hundreds to have a statistically significant sample.

Here's a more recent poll with nearly 9000 respondents if you must be skeptical. Poor AST is doing even worse now...