You can look WM and BRD from this perspective.

[Kayote]

Gallus maybe you make the assumption that most players are hardcore super elitists. this isnt the case.

Thing is some are trying to argue that SE removed the "core" of the BRD job because of mobility by pointing out how you can only cast 1 oGCD instead of 2, or miss out on some SS procs because of it. That sounds an awful lot like hardcore min/max complaints to me. Particularly when despite all that, our damage is (arguably, debatably, maybe) relatively doing better than it was in 2.0.

I can understand those who like the ease of being able to move freely and get a headstart on AoE attacks but unfortunately thats the weight they decided to take off and put on the damage side of the scale to keep things balanced. Either way, its a game play preference. Arguing how many oGCD shots we can get off now vs. then is redundant so long as our actual damage potential is equal or the same as it was before.

[Malevicton]

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You posting from an alt? Because if not, I don't think a lvl 32 brd should really be commenting about what the majority of bards want.

PS cast times don't make you a blm. Still very different playstyles.

[Maero]

You posting from an alt? Because if not, I don't think a lvl 32 brd should really be commenting about what the majority of bards want.

PS cast times don't make you a blm. Still very different playstyles.

I too was curious and looked up his profile one day as he has commented on blm and did not know what he was talking about, turns out he had neither blm or Bard. So yeah no real world experience so to say for said classes. And i usually do not like calling people out but when one does not know what they are talking about, well yeah.

[Nestama]

And it does get annoying when people say one Job is like BLM/Caster, when it is not the case (I have a level 60 BLM (and SMN) and a level 59 BRD, so I can safely say the two are in no way comparable). Yeah, so a BRD gets a "charge" bar with WM on, big whoop, but 1.5 second charge bar is in no way the same as a Casters 2.5-3 second cast bar. Yes, the difference in seconds is minor, but those few seconds make a huge difference depending on the fight (most boss AoE attacks take 2-3 seconds to cast, which usually forces a mage to move. A BRD can finish their wind-up and then move).

All WM does is limit your mobility. You can still use oGCD skills between charges. If a BLM had damaging oGCD abilities, they'd have to choose between those or another Fire IV cast (one second is enough to ruin an Enochian/Astral rotation).

[Malevicton]

I too was curious and looked up his profile one day as he has commented on blm and did not know what he was talking about, turns out he had neither blm or Bard. So yeah no real world experience so to say for said classes. And i usually do not like calling people out but when one does not know what they are talking about, well yeah.

Yeah, I usually don't mind that kind of stuff. People can still form solid opinions on things without hands-on experience... but since he seems to be speaking for the bard community in general, at least in his signature, I feel like personal experience gained some relevance. At least, yknow, having it at 50.