Bard and how to fix it.

[Roshidon1]

Would just like to say nice job on the thread Snowaeth. It is certainly a step in the right direction compared to the other bard thread.

As for fixes, I really like the idea of a stacking bloodletter. Also maybe an inherent barrage+EA skill since any bard worth his salt is going to be pairing those 2 up anyways; Why not cut the clicking down some and have every EA every 90 seconds to 3x damage?

[Snowaeth]

Would just like to say nice job on the thread Snowaeth. It is certainly a step in the right direction compared to the other bard thread.

As for fixes, I really like the idea of a stacking bloodletter. Also maybe an inherent barrage+EA skill since any bard worth his salt is going to be pairing those 2 up anyways; Why not cut the clicking down some and have every EA every 90 seconds to 3x damage?

Thanks,

And yeah liking that Barrage idea.
The way it is right now in a normal rotation there's 1s room for OGCD's so with Barrage + 1,5sec cast of EA + possible Bloodletter proc it can easily end up cutting into our GCD by almost a whole GCD unless SS procce'd before.

This could also be cut down somewhat by making EA instant cast like MCH Gauss Round, but I'm not sure if that's a good or bad thing as EA is a strong skill afterall.

You get Barrage before you get EA. If you do anything where you get scaled to before you get EA, obviously you won't be using Barrage with EA.

Good point, it could be made into something that's only the case while under effect of WM to fix this?

[RiceisNice]

Good point, it could be made into something that's only the case while under effect of WM to fix this?

Having river of blood work differently under WM can go a long way, not necessarily needing to change how barrage works, whether it be a stacking buff or boosting your next skill in place of the reset.

[Aiselia]

As for fixes, I really like the idea of a stacking bloodletter. Also maybe an inherent barrage+EA skill since any bard worth his salt is going to be pairing those 2 up anyways; Why not cut the clicking down some and have every EA every 90 seconds to 3x damage?

You get Barrage before you get EA. If you do anything where you get scaled to before you get EA, obviously you won't be using Barrage with EA.

[Orangekun]

Also maybe an inherent barrage+EA skill since any bard worth his salt is going to be pairing those 2 up anyways; Why not cut the clicking down some and have every EA every 90 seconds to 3x damage?

I worry that the devs will never take approaches like this (not necessarily identical to this, but consolidating skills in general) simply because they've designed classes so rigidly. Every class in the game gets a trait or a skill every 2 levels - with of course the exception of skills gained via quests. What this means is everyone has the exact same number of skills, so if they were to do something like bake Barrage into Empyreal Arrow, Bard would have 1 fewer skills than every other class.

Obviously not all classes in a game need the same number of skills - that's a ridiculous mould to cram every class into and it's severely limiting. They had an opportunity to introduce meaningful changes to the game when they released an expansion, and they didn't jump on that. I like Heavensward plenty, but it really didn't introduce change or improvements like an expansion typically does for a game. It's essentially 100% more of the same old FFXIV, and that's not necessarily bad, but for me it's a little bit disappointing.