Midgardsormr's Sorrow [SPOILER]

[Kuroneko_Jutah]

if any of you haven't been, definitely go and talk to npcs around ishgard and dragonhead after you finish the msq, you will find some of the responses very enlightening. i wandered back into the library in the pillars (from that sidequest where you had to figure out which volumes were missing) and spoke with several of the clergy-in-training npcs and several times they mentioned something about the doctrine needing to be revised now that the truth has been brought to light. i still need to wander through whitebrim and the observatorium looking for npcs to chat up but for the most part i liked the subtle changes, i wasn't expecting them to be that thorough with background npcs

also, to anyone who hasn't yet, make sure you visit the new monument on the cliff to the west of steel vigil and pay your respects

[AdamuKun322]

Calling it now, 3.xx will end with Midgard fully regaining his powers and taking on either his old form or a new form entirely and ending the war.

[MilesSaintboroguh]

Calling it now, 3.xx will end with Midgard fully regaining his powers and taking on either his old form or a new form entirely and ending the war.

So is he gonna get the belt and whup Nidhogg straight?

[RickXRolled]

Calling it now, 3.xx will end with Midgard fully regaining his powers and taking on either his old form or a new form entirely and ending the war.

It's more likely he will go full size and sacrifice himself to take out the garlean mothership.(again)

[EdwinLi]

Calling it now, 3.xx will end with Midgard fully regaining his powers and taking on either his old form or a new form entirely and ending the war.

Not to be a downer but if that happens my best guess is that midgar will have to kill his own son Nidhogg to end the war. Most likely feelings of responsibility to end his own son with his own hands due to feeling he failed Nidhogg as a father.

[Solaria_Luna]

The response about the new Garlean airship being taken down by Middy again is the best one. I guess what Edwin said could be valid too.

I'm still wondering if Midgarsormr and Hydaelyn had some sort of pact or something. Judging by the blessing removal...then the return of some of the blessing.

[saber_alter]

So is he gonna get the belt and whup Nidhogg straight?

doubtful, but it will most likely take the combined efforts of him, Hraesvelgr, Tiamat, and any other of midgardsormer's children who find themselves in dravinia at the time.

[EdwinLi]

I'm still wondering if Midgarsormr and Hydaelyn had some sort of pact or something. Judging by the blessing removal...then the return of some of the blessing.

Well considering the original pact is now over, being Midgar protect the Seal of Silvertear lake from breaking and releasing the Primals back into the world, his new pact seems to be more focused on aiding the WoL.

He only sealed the blessing as a means to test if the WoL is worthy of the blessing to begin with. Now that we have past his test his focus now is more towards aiding the WoL against the greater threat which is partly why we can summon him as a fly mount at the end of 3.0.

[Samcaesar]

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I mean yeah, it's a super powerful relic(I guess you could call it that?), but the point is, all Nidhogg had to do was wait, and suddenly it's body snatching time, and that's when Estinien's only occasionally using it. You'd think the creature, totally separated from his natural power source, and relying nearly entirely on someone else's power to live and do what they want would be pretty susceptible to that second person's control.

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Eh, it wasn't his real physical form, but that massive body was still alive, and it showed he still had massive amounts of aether he could use. The large physical body isn't just rotting away there I'm sure of it, its just not doing much while it still recovers from have a crap ton of stuff blow up directly on it.

It shouldn't be, but plenty of Ishgardians just seem to go "Eh, makes sense to me! Just forget about that killing innocent dragons and heretics business by the way?" (Look at the way Ishgard seems to be pretty okay with suddenly helping the Moogles restore Zenith aka helping Hraesvelgr. It's funny because even in that sidequest it mentions "1000 years of animosity can't be forgotten overnight" while Ishgard seems to be pretty find forgetting that animosity suddenly). I don't think that Ishgard as a whole was written to well, and it overall places Ishgard is an overtly sympathetic light and lets them off the hook to plenty of awful things. One of the biggest issue with the whole ordeal is with the Archbiship leaving Ishgard along with the twelve most powerful, iconic men of Ishgard and Aymeric, you, and co are walking out of the situation no issue, you'd think even the three other houses would be suddenly pretty angry at our actions and all, but I don't recall anything of the sort too much. Plus, that's such an unsatisfying regrowth to the dragon/Ishgard relationship, we've done plenty of things to change the world already with things that'd take decades, and yet somehow we can't at least see some proper steps with Ishgard doing some good and helping dragon kind while also addressing the various issues a sudden start change a society like Ishgard's would face.

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It's not entirely Ishgard's fault, but you can't forget, tons of awful things were committed in either ignorance or just plan hatred, just as the dragons do the same. The Heretics still are a thing, one that enough Ishgardians believed in to make it a notable threat/presence. Like.. You can't just say "They were all completely ignorance and unknowing so the awful stuff isn't their fault" when the the heretics are also from Ishgard. Either way we ended up killing far more heretics than Ishgardians, which just seems like a failure on the story to portray Ishgard with it's own levels of problematic issues (Just like how they kinda handwaved nearly the entire population of central Coerthas being totally fine with killing a bunch of innocent people by making them jump off cliffs). Honestly, if it showed the Ishgardians taking the proper step forward before the end of 3.0 occured, maybe a few subplots where we end up attacking/stopping/killing Ishgardians desperate to hold onto their old ways. Personally I wouldn't mind us trying to go to Hraesvelgr in an attempt to help ally with him again, only to end up fighting some greedy/power hungry conservative Ishgardians trying to ruin the peace by killing Hraesvelgr and using his eyes for their own purposes. If the story wants to show Ishgard and the dragons in an equal light with regards to guilt and sympathy, we need way more quests that show Ishgard being both unapologetically bad and then punished for it, same thing we do with the Dragons. One or two more areas with friendly dragons we can interact with would be pretty nice too.

[Airget]

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Hraesvelgr is the worse imo, he could of stopped any bloodshed had he just let Nidhogg die and yet he chose to give him an eye knowing full well the rage that dwelled within him. He was ok to live a "peaceful" life and not bloody his hands but he didn't care if one of his own brothers murdered with his eye.