Midgardsormr's Sorrow [SPOILER]

[MilesSaintboroguh]

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The way I see it is it's not all of Ishgard's fault for the crimes and other bad things that were done since forever and a day ago. The secret of who cast the first stone was guarded very well and everyone grew up with false knowledge. No one was none the wiser until we showed up and did some snooping around. Ishgard, as a city during the war and as a society, have been the way they been for ages because of a select few and said select few got the punishment they deserved. What more could be done to not make the city look like it's getting off light?

[Samcaesar]

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I mean yeah, it's a super powerful relic(I guess you could call it that?), but the point is, all Nidhogg had to do was wait, and suddenly it's body snatching time, and that's when Estinien's only occasionally using it. You'd think the creature, totally separated from his natural power source, and relying nearly entirely on someone else's power to live and do what they want would be pretty susceptible to that second person's control.

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Eh, it wasn't his real physical form, but that massive body was still alive, and it showed he still had massive amounts of aether he could use. The large physical body isn't just rotting away there I'm sure of it, its just not doing much while it still recovers from have a crap ton of stuff blow up directly on it.

It shouldn't be, but plenty of Ishgardians just seem to go "Eh, makes sense to me! Just forget about that killing innocent dragons and heretics business by the way?" (Look at the way Ishgard seems to be pretty okay with suddenly helping the Moogles restore Zenith aka helping Hraesvelgr. It's funny because even in that sidequest it mentions "1000 years of animosity can't be forgotten overnight" while Ishgard seems to be pretty find forgetting that animosity suddenly). I don't think that Ishgard as a whole was written to well, and it overall places Ishgard is an overtly sympathetic light and lets them off the hook to plenty of awful things. One of the biggest issue with the whole ordeal is with the Archbiship leaving Ishgard along with the twelve most powerful, iconic men of Ishgard and Aymeric, you, and co are walking out of the situation no issue, you'd think even the three other houses would be suddenly pretty angry at our actions and all, but I don't recall anything of the sort too much. Plus, that's such an unsatisfying regrowth to the dragon/Ishgard relationship, we've done plenty of things to change the world already with things that'd take decades, and yet somehow we can't at least see some proper steps with Ishgard doing some good and helping dragon kind while also addressing the various issues a sudden start change a society like Ishgard's would face.

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It's not entirely Ishgard's fault, but you can't forget, tons of awful things were committed in either ignorance or just plan hatred, just as the dragons do the same. The Heretics still are a thing, one that enough Ishgardians believed in to make it a notable threat/presence. Like.. You can't just say "They were all completely ignorance and unknowing so the awful stuff isn't their fault" when the the heretics are also from Ishgard. Either way we ended up killing far more heretics than Ishgardians, which just seems like a failure on the story to portray Ishgard with it's own levels of problematic issues (Just like how they kinda handwaved nearly the entire population of central Coerthas being totally fine with killing a bunch of innocent people by making them jump off cliffs). Honestly, if it showed the Ishgardians taking the proper step forward before the end of 3.0 occured, maybe a few subplots where we end up attacking/stopping/killing Ishgardians desperate to hold onto their old ways. Personally I wouldn't mind us trying to go to Hraesvelgr in an attempt to help ally with him again, only to end up fighting some greedy/power hungry conservative Ishgardians trying to ruin the peace by killing Hraesvelgr and using his eyes for their own purposes. If the story wants to show Ishgard and the dragons in an equal light with regards to guilt and sympathy, we need way more quests that show Ishgard being both unapologetically bad and then punished for it, same thing we do with the Dragons. One or two more areas with friendly dragons we can interact with would be pretty nice too.