Midgardsormr's Sorrow [SPOILER]

[EdwinLi]

Warning: This contains spoiler discussion.

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I feel sad for Midgardsormr since his life as a father is a horrible one.

Each of his children known to us currently all have horrible fates caused by the actions of others or their own actions from...

- Bahamut was killed by the Allagans during their conquest of the world in the Third Astral Era.

- Tiamat was tricked by the Ascians to summon a fake version of Bahamut and then the Ascians gave the Allagans the knowlodge on how to enslave dragons and imprisoned Tiamat in Azys Lia to be studied as a research material while the Fake Bahamut was imprisoned in Dalamud using the knowledge the Ascians gave the Allagans. She now punish herself by choosing to remain imprisoned for eternity.

- Ratatoskr is murdered by the founders of Ishgard due to their desire for power.

- Nidhogg is turned into a Crazy Vengeful Dragon by the actions of the Founders of Ishgard and his vengence was allowed to fester by his brother until it completely consumed him.

- Hraesvelgr now put himself through self isolation due to the regret over his own actions from not being able to prevent Rataiskr's death, couldn't prevent Nidhogg from losing his eyes from the betrayal, allowing Nidhogg to turn into the monster he is now knowing full well he would become like this if allowed to live, and for allowing Nidhogg to cause the death of thousands of Dravanians and Ishgardians for centuries over his quest for vengence.

It is like the world just want to beat Midgardsormr with a stick even after he is dead.

[Jinrya-Geki]

I found it odd Midgarsomr had nothing to say to Nidhogg or Hraesvelgr during their scenes.

He talks with Tiamat, but not them to try and calm them? That makes no sense.

Just odd to me in general.

[EdwinLi]

I found it odd Midgarsomr had nothing to say to Nidhogg or Hraesvelgr during their scenes.

He talks with Tiamat, but not them to try and calm them? That makes no sense.

Just odd to me in general.

It is most likely due to Estinien being there.

Midgar, during those times, didn't want the world to know he has returned and he knows full well Estinien would reveal to the world that Midgar has returned. If the world learned that he had returned it would have started a massive panic so he had to choose who he reveal himself to wisely.

[Rhaja]

"I can't even bother to speak to either of you until you get your **** together"

[Samcaesar]

Ehh.. I dunno, considering how Estinien seemed to be, I'm sure he wouldn't care too much if Middy came out to solve the situation. I mean, I'm also pretty curious how the heck Nidhogg or Hraesvelgr didn't notice Midgardsormr's presence, you'd think they'd be able to detect the specific aether of their dad.

Tbh I think the story of Heavensward 3.0 has way to much of a pro-Ishgard stance and all the awful stuff to the great wyrms is kinda apart of that.

[Musashidon]

It is most likely due to Estinien being there.

Midgar, during those times, didn't want the world to know he has returned and he knows full well Estinien would reveal to the world that Midgar has returned. If the world learned that he had returned it would have started a massive panic so he had to choose who he reveal himself to wisely.

not only this, but nidhogg is beyond saving even midgar says it. he mourns for what nidhogg become.

Hraesvelgr is in the same situation as tiamat (regret) but the difference is if midgard has convinced him to help us things would have played out differently (certain spoilers that i will leave out)but he had ysayle who (from the same spoiler) seems to get close to him.

Ehh.. I dunno, considering how Estinien seemed to be, I'm sure he wouldn't care too much if Middy came out to solve the situation. I mean, I'm also pretty curious how the heck Nidhogg or Hraesvelgr didn't notice Midgardsormr's presence, you'd think they'd be able to detect the specific aether of their dad.

Tbh I think the story of Heavensward 3.0 has way to much of a pro-Ishgard stance and all the awful stuff to the great wyrms is kinda apart of that.

he is the father of them, i wouldn't be shocked if he is strong enough to hide from nearly anyone.

i personally think it was pretty even, the only truely bad dragon was nidhogg, we find out only a small part of each group truely hate each other.

[EdwinLi]

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No matter how a person would put it it seem something tragic has happened to each of Midgar's children.

I hope that the last two at least have a better fate than the curent five since Midgar has a lot of emotional scars left by what has happened to his children but considering how so far none hasn't suffered a horrible fate caused by the world it may just be wishful thinking.

[Musashidon]

No matter how a person would put it it seem something tragic has happened to each of Midgar's children.

mhm! not only that it's his kids, and he is pretty chill about it. (not saying he is happy) just waiting for the day to see midgard go full size and wreck whoever happens to be in his way (hopefully not us!)

[EdwinLi]

mhm! not only that it's his kids, and he is pretty chill about it. (not saying he is happy) just waiting for the day to see midgard go full size and wreck whoever happens to be in his way (hopefully not us!)

Well he had hundreds of years to moar over them so by now most likely he is dried up from the sorrow and is just hardend so he doesn't have it risking his new duty as a being helping the WoL to protect Hydaelyn.

Midgar knows full well that he can't undo the damage done but moaring over it when he had already hundreds of years to do so won't help the remaining children he can still save. It is no doubt hard on him to not moar but he does see the bigger picture of not letting it stop him from save the remaining children like Hraesvelgr.

[Samcaesar]

he is the father of them, i wouldn't be shocked if he is strong enough to hide from nearly anyone.

i personally think it was pretty even, the only truely bad dragon was nidhogg, we find out only a small part of each group truely hate each other.

I mean, maybe mortals couldn't sense him too well, but I find it sooo odd that Hraesvelgr wasn't all "And uh.. Dad what the heck are you doing here". They're such aether attuned beings, you'd think they'd be notice to sense such a unique presence such as father of all dragons.

I dunno, I think the story really poorly handles Nidhogg, like Hraesveglr basically could rein him in whenever.. And yet didn't. Nor does it explain why the heck Midgardsormr or Hraesvelgr couldn't just counter-act Nidhogg's song with their own version of it. Plus I feel it's kinda annoying whenever we help Ishgard kill tons of dragons (Not knowing if they're just living in the Dravania area or attack Ishgard) left and right and we're suppose to be that "neutral" factor to the war. I really hope Ishgard's habits of killing/attack any and all dragons doesn't immediately stop with the end of 3.0, or I'm calling out some shenanigans.