Would it be wrong for all Healing jobs to have Stoneskin 2?

[Greven]

Well, SCH can succor or even Adlo+E4nE+DT. Astro can Lightspeed.

I would rather them give combat SS2 to WHM and non combat SS2 crossclass to the other healers.

[DeadRiser]

WHM already had to give up having a better version of Stoneskin and Protect which IMO was not really necessary (even though I find these very useful on my AST, as a former WHM main I'm still bitter about those changes). Taking away the meager Stoneskin 2 would just be a punch in the gut.

What?

Yes. I see party finder's all the time looking for WHMONRY because of Stoneskin II. Not because of their amazing healing power/regens.

[SuzakuCMX]

What?

Yes. I see party finder's all the time looking for WHMONRY because of Stoneskin II. Not because of their amazing healing power/regens.

Not to mention the only class that gives a party MND bonus.

[Mutemutt]

To be honest, I wouldn't care if they did share stoneskin 2 with the other healers and I wouldn't care if they didn't. I don't find pre-pull stoneskin nearly as influential as people seem to make it sound, especially stoneskin on anyone who won't be tanking.

He's probably thinking "hope my healer will DPS while I'm not taking damage due to Stoneskin so this can go much faster." It's not necessary in current dungeons if you go one pull at a time, but in speedruns and end-game raids Stoneskin is as necessary as Swiftcast.

And as healer I'd be thinking, "just hurry and pull so I can start chaining holy stuns already..."

[basketofseals]

Thank goodness you aren't tanking.

With all of the new dark knights running around, sometimes I am tanking D:

[MXMoondoggie]

Stoneskin II is a pointless skill with one time saving use I don't care if they give it to other Healers. They might as well since they already removed things that make WHM stand out while buffing what makes the other Healer classes stand out. The damage has been done that pointless Stoneskin II skill is the least of our worries when it comes to losing our identity. Soon they'll probably make AST a better primary Healer so nobody will be able to play WHM at all because SE seems to be on this quest to phase out WHM.

[Selli]

Snip.

Have you even used any of the new skills? Every single one of them is amazing. What even is there to be upset about?

WHMs still have the same amazing healing they've always offered and now they offer some pretty decent DPS as well. They even got a skill that restores MP based on their MP pool which is something WHMs have been asking for since... forever.

[Raminax]

Nah, let's just listen to Party Finder wisdom with 180 requirements for Bismarck Ex. White Mages are over, our only use is Stoneskin II and the Mind buff for the Scholar god.

[deos]

yes, it is. WHMs dont have any party-wide shielding spells or abilities like SCH/AST(?). I would want SE make it usable during combat, though.

hmm...
how about making SS2 an ability with 30 - 60 sec cd that can be used infight? would be fair after the SS nerf wouldnt it?
and no, it should stay WHM only (or it should at least have double the cd on other classes)

[Garlyle]

As a WHM I'm still genuinely clueless about how people can try to legitimately argue for Stoneskin II being exclusive. It's literally nothing but a convenience button for speeding up out-of-combat setup. It has absolutely 0 functional gameplay impact. And if you genuinely believe somehow that it being available to other healers is going to somehow damage WHM, or that this button is somehow something super special and worth defending, you're ridiculous.