Observations from a New Player

[Catwho]

I go through X-ethers like candy on all my mage jobs, and also on my bard. Just wish the cooldown was shorter.

I also use Buttons in a Blanket as my universal food on all my jobs - got something that benefits everyone, and I can make them cheaply myself.

The rest of the thread has already given a pretty solid point by point takedown of everything in the OP, but I did want to add in that I'm on a very active social LS on my server but my FC only has around 15 active players, so having the social LS fills in the gap when no one else is on. Makes the game less lonely.

[QiLymePye]

I like how QiLymePye thinks that if SE doesn't change things they won't last long, yet plays ESO which has been doing poorly enough to drop the subscription model.

Funny, that I said I like both, and that ESO has an optional sub model, which i pay for as well. And just because a game drops sub model doesn't mean its doing terrible. As a matter of fact, most games don't have a sub model and they are doing fine. you pay a sub for access to servers but guess what....I can access ESO servers without a sub, and I get patches without a sub, wait....what am I getting moreso in FF for a sub than ESO without a sub? seriously? I even had to pay for an expansion, 39.99....so I didn't get that with my sub..

[AltanRapsied]

Things I think FFXIV can get rid of:
- Guildheists
- Chocobo fighting
- Hunting/Sightseeing logs
- City to City Airships
- Treasure Chests
- Linkshells
- Irrelevant quest lines (Ultima's Bane, Relic Weapon, etc)

Clearly, we don't need LS at all. That's why most HL player have the max LS in their list and sometime have to leave one to join another.
Clearly Ultima's bane is useless because having some challenge with cool accessories as reward is useless. The relic weapon is useless too, who would like to have a weapon which can have its stat modified, with a cool appearance and a legendary name in the FF serie.
Clearly chocobo fighting isn't needed. We should just left those poor beast at the FC house and let them reproduce to have some eggs for breakfast.
Clearly there's no point in treasure hunt. Why should we make a fun content with rare material to craft awesome clothes, and loot cute minions?
Etc, etc.

Clearly, your point of view as a new player is useless, 'cause you don't know anything about the game.

[Teleste]

He's a cute troll... no food for you today mister.

[Khyan]

"Observations from a New Player"

You need to play more, then. All you said is wrong.

[QiLymePye]

Actually, I'm gonna elaborate more on my last post. But first, understand that this post is out of frustration with SE cause i know they can do better. So you got me thinking: What more do I get from FF than from ESO at this point? Im playing both, so just putting a stop to the idiots that will say, "then leave and don't play". I want this game to be great, so...

FF:
Must pay a sub (11.99 lowest i think?) in order to just play the game
Sub gives you access to servers
Frequent patches and updates, news, etc

ESO:
No sub(optional sub of 15.00)
access to servers with or without sub
Frequent patches, updates, news, etc. with or without Sub

Now I'm not gonna talk about gameplay and such, I play both and they are both good games. The graphics are more detailed in ESO that FF; gameplay for both is solid(except the BRD thing SE!!!!!!!). And the story is good for both, with ESO, to me, beating out SE due to voice acting. So how is not having a sub a bad thing for an mmo when they offer the same things as a "must have sub to play" game? And I ask people before they go off on my response, if they even played ESO? I play on PS4 so I don't know how PC is but ESO is like Skyrim on crack.

[odie]

ESO was nothing like skyrim

[saber_alter]

Things I think would make FFXIV more fun:
- The ability to re-queue with random players we've been asking for this since release.
- Mobs that drop loot sadly, this doesn't fit all that well with the scheme of the game.
- More challenging mobs so much yes.
- Boss fights that require tactics (not memorization) yes, we need more of this...a few bosses are like this. most of those are raid bosses.
- More variety between jobs give it a few expansions.

If improvements can't be made to things because of over taxing the servers, I think FFXIV should trim some of the fat from the game.
Things I think FFXIV can get rid of:
- Guildheists they're there for you to level, and their first time bonus isn't restricted to your class.
- Potions It has been explained to me that potions and food are necessary in end game raiding.
- FoodIt has been explained to me that potions and food are necessary in end game raiding.
- Chocobo fighting kweh gets pretty OP if you grind it to max, they need to be expanded upon, not removed.
- Hunting/Sightseeing logs free EXP, and it makes look for pretty views in the process.
- City to City Airships cheaper than teleporting, and it lets the RPers and aimless wanderers like me have another method of travel.
- Treasure Chests mp pots are quite useful in endgame.
- Linkshells no.
- Irrelevant quest lines (Ultima's Bane, Relic Weapon, etc)at one point, these were relevant. old content is still fun to do anyway, and your relic ends up being a pretty cool vanity weapon when it's done completely.

rebuttals/agreements in red text.

this is an MMO, a lot of things are going to seem irrelevant to your playstyle. do what you think is worth doing, and ignore the rest!

[Odstarva]

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I played ESO when it had a sub, and I quit playing it about a month later. That should explain just how much I personally liked that game.

I've always been an Elder Scrolls fan, but that game just couldn't captivate me. All the lore in the world, all the story, couldn't keep me in. I just didn't have fun playing it, and I'm not quite sure you can quantify that! You can see it looks better graphically, but it doesn't look better artistically nor aesthetically.

I can't argue how FFXIV is better than ESO, because frankly maybe it isn't, but I really couldn't care less.

I like this game. I have fun playing it, and I wouldn't go back to ESO even now that it's gone F2P. Not when I have a more appealing option.

[Lucidbro]

If you had phrased your OP this way, instead of saying that they should be removed, a lot of the arguments herewouldn't havehappened.

No, frankly it's plain obvious that the OP is giving his input as a new player if you just stopped and read his posts, and the lot of you are just unfortunately acting like obnoxious assess. Something like this will uneventfully happen on almost any other forum but here. This community really needs to be able to handle some criticism, or you'll be your own undoing.
The OP isn't doing anything out of the ordinary, people just need to learn to argue/explain and discuss. Someone thinks something you like isn't good, don't throw a hissy fit like some creature that has just learned to type words. Explain your viewpoint, if it's a new player, even more reason. But no, the community here is out to attack him and brand him as a troll rather than accept that someone could possibly have negative views towards something in their loved game. You guys are so full of yourselves.