Bard and Wanderer's Minuet use it

[RukiaFae]

Yup, I am not going to sugar coat it. Lucky for people who like a casting type play style. They have options!

You have a option don't use it like you're already doing.

[fanservice]

Because I didn't roll and main a bard to have the playstyle completely change in the expansion.

Yeah yeah...

but I'm primarily going to continue playing the way I want. Thanks.

... why... and who gave you 15 upvotes...? This line of thinking is poison.

[Fyce]

Yup, I am not going to sugar coat it. Lucky for people who like a casting type play style. They have options!

Can you tell me what job has 1.5s cast times with a lot of instant oGCD? I don't see any.
Except for MCH, which is a copy/pasta of BRD with a shitty basic combo.

[Fantasy9]

You say we may get kicked for using it but a tank actually told me "Turn it off and AoE"

[Melinabean0]

You say we may get kicked for using it but a tank actually told me "Turn it off and AoE"

But...WM just increases the damage of your AoE and you already aren't really auto attacking...

[Fantasy9]

But...WM just increases the damage of your AoE and you already aren't really auto attacking...

That was my thought as well. I told the tank a stern "No". Didn't get kicked. Unless he voted to dismiss me but it failed.

[Aezelas]

This so much.

SE doesn't care if you use or don't use a skill, you aren't hurting them. You're only hurting other players by intentionally not using a skill that can be beneficial just for the sake of trying futilely to prove something to SE.

Hurting other players hurts SE.
It's their fault if their amateur design team went the lazy route, copy pasting jobs because they put so little work in that expansion.
We're not only trying to prove something. We're trying to give them feedback about how we think brd is broken.

On OP's question, i personnaly am bringing BRD to 60 only to complete MSQ and unlock content, which will go faster than with my AST.
I don't plan on playing it much after that, only to help friends and FC if needed.

[Adire]

Hurting other players hurts SE.
It's their fault if their amateur design team went the lazy route, copy pasting jobs because they put so little work in that expansion.
We're not only trying to prove something. We're trying to give them feedback about how we think brd is broken.

Lol. So it's okay to hurt other players' experience in order to prove a futile point to SE? How selfish.

If you don't like WM, complain. Complain until the world ends.

But every time you enter a dungeon and choose not to use WM, know that you're hurting your group and SE isn't watching you do it. Only the players know and are hurt.

Also, I see you believe the expansion overall is lazy. Might I suggest unsubbing? You seem to take issue with more than just WM. You'll be letting SE know you're discontent more by unsubbing than by choosing to not use WM, which they'll never know anyways.

[Belhi]

Honestly people seem to be overlooking how easy it is to enter and leave WM. Its nothing like a BLM. A BLM cant instantly drop their cast times and run and gun. The only restriction is that when you activate WM you need to be ready to be in it for 15 seconds. There are heaps of times in fights where your just standing still shoting for ages where WM shines. Its also a big bonus in AoE situations.

Maybe its cause I'm coming from playing a lot of WHM but droping in and out of a stance really doesn't seem that burdensome.

BRD doesn't play like BLM and people who think it does, don't play BLMs.

[Wizarus]

Bard DPS is already low as it is, and people are choosing cut that DPS even lower by not using Wanderer's Minuet. If I see it in something like A1, I will absolutely put them on blast.