I chose BRD for swift gameplay, if I wanted to cast I would have chosen a Mage.

[Duelle]

People need to learn to relax and do what real bards do.

Seduce tavern wenches and nobles' daughters, manipulate their enemies with silver tongues and gain proficiency using swords, daggers and bows?

The point is, BRDs were used to playing with a certain playstyle for almost 2 years. BLMs are expecting to be immobile because that's how it plays from the beginning, Enochian just embraces that further, while BRDs went from being one of the most mobile jobs to being immobile essentially over night. You play the entire game from ARR 2.0 to 3.0 and suddenly WM not only changes your rotation but it changes the entire playstyle of the job. I agree that something had to be done about their essentially unrivaled mobility to damage ratio, but it should have been done a bit more gracefully. Perfect example would be to take a few cues from Marksmanship Hunter in WoW (a sin I know!). Have maybe 2ish shots you have to actually stand still and cast, 1 being a maintenance buff/debuff shot you have to keep up every so often, and 1 being damage shot that's a short CD or procs from something else....boom done. Reduced mobility while still retaining the mobility playstyle with the other shots. That's just a rough draft, but I feel WM was not the right way to go about it. WM having to be cast was a disaster all on its own and removing the cast time does help indeed, but I still feel WM is as clunky of a solution as they could have come up with.

I can agree with this. I'll mention my other suggestion again by saying that if they're hellbent on giving the job cast times, give Windbite and Bloodletter cast times, leave the rest of the skills as is. WM would have to be replaced with something else but you'd cut down on some of the mobility by having to stand still every time you want to use a BL proc.

[Raist]

I'm leaning towards the issue being the implementation like some others have stated. I would have rather they did something like revamping ACC/CRIT calculations to nerf us while moving than how they thrust WM on us like this. Think that would have been a much easier learning curve than this mess, but would have essentially served the same purpose.

[UBERHAXED]

Warrior can literally outdps bard right now.
Why don't we see Warriors being stacked yet with your logic?
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The only reason bard was ever stacked in 2.0 is because they could output high dps while not being affected by mechanics so much due to freedom of movement.
This is not the case anymore, we need to be inside WM now giving us cast times, thus removing that advantage of why you'd stack bard even more.

Warriors aren't stacked because bard is better (read the statement you quoted)... If you read into the statement, you'd realize that everything you mentioned has been adjusted with anti stacking measures. Remember virus in 2.0? You probably don't but you used to have 100% uptime. Now, why would anyone but the scholar use virus when you get the same immunity? Apocostasis? That used to be the worst move in the game until adjustments. I think the point went over your head. But you seem to get the point in your final statement, so that confuses me. Do you know why they restricted mobility and increased dps?

[AdamFyi]

Warrior can literally outdps bard right now.
Why don't we see Warriors being stacked yet with your logic?

This was answered in the Live Letter a couple of days ago.

Q4. Even though they’re a tank, warriors can deal a lot of damage, will paladin and dark knight be able to deal a similar amount of damage?

A4. The reason warriors DPS is high is because they have a debuff where they can decrease a target’s slashing resistance.

As an off tank, dark knights can also utilize the benefits from this debuff’s effect and that will also allow them to output similar amounts of damage. Paladins are specialized in defense so their damage output is a little bit lower.

As for how warriors can output more DPS while main tanking, paladins have strong physical damage reduction and powerful actions like Hallowed Ground, dark knights have a strong magical damage reduction in Dark Mind, so these are the differences from the job designs.

If resistance is being brought into this, quite possibly, with a Bard and Dragoon pairing, the Bard would do more damage, no? o:

[NyssaElf]

If resistance is being brought into this, quite possibly, with a Bard and Dragoon pairing, the Bard would do more damage, no? o:

No because we are piercing?
If I hear a war go look at my fell cleave hit for 7k one more time I'm going to lose my mind

[Sapphic]

No because we are piercing?

Yes, because you are piercing.

Disembowel
Reduces targets piercing resist by 10%.

A DRG skill.....

[NyssaElf]

Yes, because you are piercing.

Disembowel
Reduces targets piercing resist by 10%.

A DRG skill.....

Yea sure not what I'm saying. He said bring a tank for it's "slashing resisting" and a drg would make us do more damage. Drg yes war no

[AdamFyi]

Yea sure not what I'm saying. He said bring a tank for it's "slashing resisting" and a drg would make us do more damage. Drg yes war no

Wat.
Read my question more carefully. I said that bringing a Dragoon for the piercing debuff would increase Bards damage output. The Warrior part was only to address the fact that we can include resist debuffs.

Edit:

He might have changed it, as says Bard and Dragoon now.

It wasn't edited though. You can see the original in the person's post. :u

[Sapphic]

Yea sure not what I'm saying. He said bring a tank for it's "slashing resisting" and a drg would make us do more damage. Drg yes war no

He might have changed it, as says Bard and Dragoon now.

[Snowaeth]

This was answered in the Live Letter a couple of days ago.



If resistance is being brought into this, quite possibly, with a Bard and Dragoon pairing, the Bard would do more damage, no? o:

With that logic you can say the DRG does less damage than the other melee by like 120dps because DRG comes with piercing resist down.
Then with the same logic DRG should be parsing 10% above the other melee dps because you know, without the resist down it does less right?
Yet the DRG is balanced around doing dmg with that piercing resist debuff up.

Just because they'r the developers doesn't make their excuse right.

Bard doesn't come with a built in piercing resistance down debuff, if we did then this argument could be made.

Also even with the DRG debuff bard is doing about the same as WAR because it's behind WAR without the debuff.