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    I'm The only 1 who thinks that dps healer it's just an OPTIONAL? It's not our role to dps.. It's ok sometimes we MUST dps but it should not be like 'a good healer is a dps healer'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    I'm The only 1 who thinks that dps healer it's just an OPTIONAL? It's not our role to dps.. It's ok sometimes we MUST dps but it should not be like 'a good healer is a dps healer'
    We've been through this many times now on these forums.

    If you think that roles are strict guidelines for which actions you should use while playing, then you might subscribe to the "not in my job description" view on healers bringing support DPS.

    If you accept that it is the role of the entire party to do what they can to succeed, you'll probably consider healer DPS to be a given whenever it can be safely and effectively provided.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    We've been through this many times now on these forums.

    If you think that roles are strict guidelines for which actions you should use while playing, then you might subscribe to the "not in my job description" view on healers bringing support DPS.

    If you accept that it is the role of the entire party to do what they can to succeed, you'll probably consider healer DPS to be a given whenever it can be safely and effectively provided.
    As I said I know that sometimes we MUST turn to dps to help the party but what I hate it's e thing that, I repeat, a good healer it's a dps healer.

    For the rest I'm with u but it seems that u didn't get the exact point of my opinion :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    As I said I know that sometimes we MUST turn to dps to help the party but what I hate it's e thing that, I repeat, a good healer it's a dps healer.

    For the rest I'm with u but it seems that u didn't get the exact point of my opinion :-)
    It was my nice and non-argumentative way to suggest that a good healer knows how and when to DPS. It's extremely difficult to make the case for "good" healers not knowing how to use their full kit.

    A healer can do their job adequately without touching DPS skills in most cases, but no one would ever say that such a healer was better than average.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eraqus View Post
    As I said I know that sometimes we MUST turn to dps to help the party but what I hate it's e thing that, I repeat, a good healer it's a dps healer.

    For the rest I'm with u but it seems that u didn't get the exact point of my opinion :-)
    I believe they said they didn't tune the coil fights with the idea that healers could pepper in additional DPS because it was pushing phases faster than they had accounted for and making the fights easier than intended. The Savage Alex fights have been created with the idea that healers can pump out significant DPS if allowed to, which may mean that as a healer you are expected to contribute DPS.

    Honestly healing isn't incredibly hard to do well on compared to a DPS with a long repetitive rotation/priority system. You mostly just spam 1 key, your mana-efficient key, except sometimes you spam 2 (Cure II/Lustrate/Benefic II) when the tank takes more damage than the 1 key can heal, and otherwise you just AoE heal to keep the party alive every once in a while. It's why a lot of people find WHM so boring, you know? You don't have to DPS if you want to, but you will have to accept that you're not reaching your full potential if you sit around with your thumb up your butt and not doing anything when you don't have to be healing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Emonik View Post
    Why has no one mentioned that Collective Unconscious already changes with Sect? Did Yoshi misspeak or is this a Translation error? I think he meant Time Dilation.
    I believe he was talking about giving it more of an effect that is unique to AST rather than a WHM regen copy or a Sacred Soil copy.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh