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  1. #11
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    Ephier's Avatar
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    Ephier Samoht
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    Ultros
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    Machinist Lv 70
    You are aware that video is after the buff right?
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  2. #12
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    Dervy Yakimi
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    Ragnarok
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    Lancer Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am afraid that your dragoon needs to work on their rotation if a MCH of all things can come close to their DPS.
    Wot. With the exclusion of Alexander, as 2/4 fights fights are Dummy fights, DRGs don't average 1000 in most situations.

    Ravana + Bismarck = 850
    A2 = 700-900 (varies on strats)
    A3 = 950 is the highest I've seen so far. Most average around 890.

    Bards and Machinists, good ones, should be 50-100 DPS below everyone else.
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  3. #13
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    Gooner_iBluAirJGR's Avatar
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    Rosenthal Hogire
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    Gilgamesh
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am afraid that your dragoon needs to work on their rotation if a MCH of all things can come close to their DPS.
    Stop the nonsense. Why is it that whenever people see a MCH/BRD coming close to the dps of other classes, all of a sudden—the other class is being played poorly?
    Y'all wanted to DPS with the big boys and now you do. /10char
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  4. #14
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    CGMidlander's Avatar
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    Height Error
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    Jenova
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SovereignAegis View Post
    I am afraid that your dragoon needs to work on their rotation if a MCH of all things can come close to their DPS.

    There is no nicer way of saying that. I get the addition of all the new skills is a lot to take in and learn, but I wouldn't compare someone who knows their class giving it their 100% vs. someone who must not be used to the new rotation/set in their ways/not trying(?).
    You are missing the point here - Machinist DPS is not horrid ATM when played properly.
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  5. #15
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    Zappa Dattic
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    Behemoth
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    Thaumaturge Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by CGMidlander View Post
    You are missing the point here - Machinist DPS is not horrid ATM when played properly.
    But no one is saying they're horrid right now. People were saying that before the buff. The op is arguing against a position that he made up to be argued against.

    SovereignAegis is still right. They shouldn't be beating drg. That's not the same as saying they're horrid.
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    When in doubt, assume sarcasm

  6. #16
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    Jexlol's Avatar
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    Qt Jex
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    Dragoon Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Wot. With the exclusion of Alexander, as 2/4 fights fights are Dummy fights, DRGs don't average 1000 in most situations.

    Ravana + Bismarck = 850
    A2 = 700-900 (varies on strats)
    A3 = 950 is the highest I've seen so far. Most average around 890.

    Bards and Machinists, good ones, should be 50-100 DPS below everyone else.
    i agree that bards and mch should be 50-100 dps below but drg can push higher dps than that on a2/a3.
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  7. #17
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    Underdog2204's Avatar
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    Dacien Valtin
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    Odin
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    Machinist Lv 70
    Is it just me who finds quite a few of those animations just odd?

    With weaving in between GCD's on MCH it looks extremely awkward, the gun flails around everywhere. I mean it's something that isn't impossible to get over but when compared to others it is kinda jarring.

    GB is so large it makes it even more pronounced.
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    Last edited by Underdog2204; 07-12-2015 at 11:02 AM.

  8. #18
    Player BristolRuss's Avatar
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    J'azih Dahj
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    Moogle
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    Dragoon Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Dervy View Post
    Wot. With the exclusion of Alexander, as 2/4 fights fights are Dummy fights, DRGs don't average 1000 in most situations.

    Ravana + Bismarck = 850
    A2 = 700-900 (varies on strats)
    A3 = 950 is the highest I've seen so far. Most average around 890.

    Bards and Machinists, good ones, should be 50-100 DPS below everyone else.
    Yup, this. Though my personal best for A2 is 912. It could have been higher, as I know full well that I missed some of my positionals.
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