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  1. #21
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    Aurelinaus's Avatar
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    Zata'ra Dakwhil
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    Jenova
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    Arcanist Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by fanservice View Post
    3 - With decent gear, it's far more effective at healing damage taken by anyone else that isn't the tank. I have 10k hp, and my lustrate heals me for 3.7k. Over 33% of my max HP.
    Doesn't feel like anything to write home about. It is the tank healing that really matters and when PLDs/DRKs and WARs come weighing in at 18k and 20k respectively. Healing only 4k is significanlty than it was before, -11% and -20% less than a 25% heal meaing 3 lustrates will take a tank from 1 to about 60% rather than 75%.
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    Last edited by Aurelinaus; 07-11-2015 at 02:53 PM.

  2. #22
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    Peach Parfait
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    Doesn't feel like anything to write home about. It is the tank healing that really matters and when PLDs/DRKs and WARs come weighing in at 18k and 20k respectively. Healing only 4k is significanlty than it was before, -11% and -20% less than a 25% heal meaing 3 lustrates will take a tank from 1 to about 60% rather than 75%.
    Being able to heal 75% of a tank's health once per minute was ridiculous.

    You still have 1800 potency healing total on an instant-cast with 1 second cooldown. You can get a tank from almost dead to almost full with all 3 lustrates. It's also way better on non-tanks than before if you have to emergency heal them before they take a hit.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

  3. #23
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    Menae Dulanis
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    Quote Originally Posted by GideonHighmourn View Post
    I hardly think SCH is the best at everything; WHM has been given a lot of DPS potential now, especially when paired with their new MP regeneration ability. The WHM in my static keeps up very well in terms of DPS to my SCH, and manages MP very well, almost never reaching empty. I have always seen WHM and SCH fairly equal and balanced, and still find them to be now.
    WHM didn't get much it didn't already have in terms of dps potential. WHM is still really, REALLY good at putting out AoE dps, and really, REALLY bad at hitting anything that requires more than base accuracy. I already get frustrated on Ravana and Alex normal with misses; Savage will likely be worse.
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  4. #24
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    Astrid Merle
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    Leviathan
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    Arcanist Lv 63
    Quote Originally Posted by Aurelinaus View Post
    Doesn't feel like anything to write home about. It is the tank healing that really matters and when PLDs/DRKs and WARs come weighing in at 18k and 20k respectively. Healing only 4k is significanlty than it was before, -11% and -20% less than a 25% heal meaing 3 lustrates will take a tank from 1 to about 60% rather than 75%.
    That's still 20% of their max HP minimum.

    That is lustrate pre-buff.

    I didn't even think lustrate needed that 5% buff in the first place when I came off one of my hiatuses :/

    Again

    -it can crit
    -we have up to 3 of them a minute. ASTs, and WHMs wish they had that kind of consistency on OGCD frontloaded burst heals. AST has a single essential dignity every 40 seconds, and WHM has a 700 potency OGCD heal every minute, and benediction every 5 minutes
    -if you have tanks sitting at 1% that often, something is seriously wrong between either the healer, or the tank
    -you will almost never need to dump all 3 into a tank; more often than not, just one is enough to get the tank to a safe amount of HP so he could afford to wait on the next casted spell, especially if it crits (hello, instant OGCD crit heal for 6k?). You should be staggering them so you have an out available for hiccups until aetherflow is ready again.

    It's plenty to write home about.
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    Last edited by fanservice; 07-11-2015 at 06:01 PM.

  5. #25
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    Hysterior's Avatar
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    Larek Darkholme
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    Gilgamesh
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    Sage Lv 100
    only thing they need to do something with imo is dissipation... I still have no idea when I can use that
    only time it could be useful is if no damages are incoming and i can use the buff to cleric stance even stronger... but does no happen often
    rest of the skills are good
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  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hysterior View Post
    only thing they need to do something with imo is dissipation... I still have no idea when I can use that
    only time it could be useful is if no damages are incoming and i can use the buff to cleric stance even stronger... but does no happen often
    rest of the skills are good
    Problem with Dissipation IMO is that SCH is doing so well without ever touching it, that making it an ability that you use often would probably mean they have to nerf SCH elsewhere.
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    Peach Parfait/Khulan Angura on Gilgamesh

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    Sacrilege Moonshadow
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    Hyperion
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    All they need to do is make Dissipation useful. I don't care if they increase the CD to 300s, just give it a role to play that isn't "least-helpful-yet-most-inconvenient emergency button in the game."
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  8. #28
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    Drago Xhula
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    Balmung
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cynfael View Post
    All they need to do is make Dissipation useful. I don't care if they increase the CD to 300s, just give it a role to play that isn't "least-helpful-yet-most-inconvenient emergency button in the game."
    i don't think it can even be counted as an emergency button cause if you use it you would just be putting yourself in an even bigger emergency...
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  9. #29
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    Tetsu Taru
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SuzakuCMX View Post
    Problem with Dissipation IMO is that SCH is doing so well without ever touching it, that making it an ability that you use often would probably mean they have to nerf SCH elsewhere.
    Good. They already nerfed lustrate and fairies. We can call it even for getting a decent lvl 60 ability.
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  10. #30
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    Quote Originally Posted by ckc22 View Post
    Good. They already nerfed lustrate and fairies. We can call it even for getting a decent lvl 60 ability.
    i dont think its the fact they "nerfed" fairy's more that they didnt scale to our stats correctly in 51-60...
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