Healing 'big' pulls on Astro

[RiisWolf]

Cheap barriers? Asp. Benefic costs 707MP while Benefic2 costs 795; Asp. Helios costs 1326 while Helios costs 1060.
Considering that the barriers are rather weak and Asp. Benefic with barrier - as mentioned somewhat earlier in this thread - leaves you with a downtime of approx. 4.5sec its just..meh..

I didn't say asp. benefic's barriers are your safety blanket, I wrote that they are NOT. What did you think I meant by that? Pop it after every long cast and everything will be A-OK??
Also, have you played SCH and WHM? You have any idea how much Asp. Benefic and Benefics cost compared to their counterparts? They are cheap. Asp. Benefic is even cheaper than stoneskin.
And why are you bringing Helios into this? I said nothing about it or anyone else being hurt and it's dumb to use that when only the tank is being attacked.

Furthermore considering the worst cards in a big pull, I agree with fanservice. Spear is in most cases the worst Card to get.

24 seconds off your Luminiferous Aether and 8 seconds off your Essential Diginity can be a lifesaver. Royal Road will make the subsequent card 30 seconds later half as effective on a single person and additionally useless for a few, I.E. Expanded Ewer card when you're the only one who uses MP. Letting the card sit is a wasted opportunity. You can have one of your damage dealers, other than a black mage, be able to use their cooldown attacks more often. Tank could use it. 30 seconds of no buffs can be killer. But if you feel like burning a away 30 seconds on a gamble then that's your problem, which makes it the party's problem cause your actions and inactions affect the party. Every little bit helps.

Please don't tell me, that you ever used Balance on a tank if a DD is in your group...

Can you be less condescending about it just because I don't explicitly mention every little thing I do? Only if he's the only one other than myself alive and/or I got the expanded upgrade, which while in said situation only if I already have the Balance card, otherwise I always slap it on a DPS, usually a DRG or BLM over anyone else. There is three other possibilities but it's so rare I don't want to give you anymore silly assumptions to base your replies on.

[YuiSasaki]

I didn't say asp. benefic's barriers are your safety blanket, I wrote that they are NOT. What did you think I meant by that? Pop it after every long cast and everything will be A-OK??
Also, have you played SCH and WHM? You have any idea how much Asp. Benefic and Benefics cost compared to their counterparts? They are cheap. Asp. Benefic is even cheaper than stoneskin.
And why are you bringing Helios into this? I said nothing about it or anyone elsebeing hurt and it's dumb to use that when only the tank is being attacked.

Let's start here: Indeed, you wrote that they are not a safety blanket, yet my point was that they are not cheap, plus the downtime you are causing with them makes them just not worth it. As of the current state (or at least in my opinion) it's just so much better to double-hot and use gravity/dots/etc. as soon as the situation allows it.
Yes, I played SCH in ARR as my main class, and they were - and from what I've heard til now, are - not as "mana-choked" as AST, if you are healing and dpsing.
Furthermore, I brought Asp. Helios into this because it applies a barrier, of course, if only the tank takes damage it is not taken into account.

24 seconds off your Luminiferous Aether and 8 seconds off your Essential Diginity can be a lifesaver. Royal Road will make the subsequent card 30 seconds later half as effective on a single person and additionally useless for a few, I.E. Expanded Ewer card when you're the only one who uses MP. Letting the card sit is a wasted opportunity.

I agree with you, that Spear, if used on yourself (and if necessary of course^^), can be a life-saver. But as I wrote in MOST cases it's one of the worst you can get.
Not to mention that RR Spear/Arrow in Light Parties is most of the time somewhat wasted. At least with PUGs, until now I almost always had a DD, whose damage or rather aggro (yes I do consider aggro reduces), was overall twice as high as the other ones. For what reason that might ever be - may it be caused by short fights or not yet "full-geared". Therefore isn't it supposed to be better to only give that "better" (geared) DD full cards? But, I guess I'm getting off topic here^^

You can have one of your damage dealers, other than a black mage, be able to use their cooldown attacks more often. Tank could use it. 30 seconds of no buffs can be killer. But if you feel like burning a away 30 seconds on a gamble then that's your problem, which makes it the party's problem cause your actions and inactions affect the party. Every little bit helps.

The problem with Spear is, that it ONLY affects CDs that are used while that card is active and coordination in PUGs is rather...well.. no need to talk about it. If it's coordinated then yes Spear is one of the better cards (or at least better than Spire/Ewer^^).

Can you be less condescending about it just because I don't explicitly mention every little thing I do? Only if he's the only one other than myself alive and/or I got the expanded upgrade, which while in said situation only if I already have the Balance card, otherwise I always slap it on a DPS, usually a DRG or BLM over anyone else. There is three other possibilities but it's so rare I don't want to give you anymore silly assumptions to base your replies on.

I'm sorry if my reply might've sounded insulting, or sth. it's just that I've seen my share of ASTs that buff the tank with everything they get, may it be Ewer, Balance, Arrow... You know what they say... Once bitten, twice shy