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    Draciella's Avatar
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    Draciella Karla
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 90

    Oh the irony in the recent live letter Q n A

    So! We have a wonderful choice of who sucks please help me threads. Many people with differing opinions and yoshida simply saying "get good" in a nutshell. We have all these conflicting points of interest i think its about time we rallied on the real issue. I think we should get some in-game tutoring on our roles.

    Now im not talking about a one trick pony rotation, i mean rotations tailored to each role and different situations they can be placed in. For example: they should offer a paladin a main tank rotation, off tank rotation and aoe management. (Spam flash isnt management its lazy)

    This is Final Fantasy, they love story lines so tie in how to play the actual class under our appropriate guilds.... i mean why else do the guilds exist anyway if not to help the player.

    Or if thats too much bassle, give everyone a f****** parser.... fyi, roles are getting excluded without one. Only valid arguement against "elitism" null and voided.
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    RickXRolled's Avatar
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    Ryan Norris
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    Gilgamesh
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    B-but parsers are evil incarnate used for harrasment! Yada yada.
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    Dar'kai Krauser
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Draciella View Post
    This is Final Fantasy, they love story lines so tie in how to play the actual class under our appropriate guilds.... i mean why else do the guilds exist anyway if not to help the player.
    Personally I like this idea. Give the guilds a sort of "class" that players can take to improve their skills.
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Ironically, screenshots of parser tables on reddit showed that BRD and MCH are capable of competitive DPS in Ravana EX and the like.
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    Draciella Karla
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    Phoenix
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Capable? Yes, no doubt. But the majority of the bards/mch dont know these rotations and are requesting buffs. Knowledge is the problem. Getting a lesson from the guild master would solve that. Then if people can out do the guild master/ the dev's then it should be bragged about on the forums and reddit. There would be no better feeling than outclassing the creator of your class eh?
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    Miya Carbuncle
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    Midgardsormr
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    Conjurer Lv 70
    Since I started playing MMOs, I've always been a strong believer that there needs to be a tutorial for every job that explains the basic rotations. Not every player would pay attention to it, but it'd certainly make a noticable difference imo -- especially for people like me that pretty much rely on duty finder. I do my best to explain fights to people, but especially when it comes to DPS check fights, knowing mechanics isn't always enough.

    Some people might argue that we already have player-made tutorials, but that's only for players willing to look them up outside of the game. If the general population of players were willing to research things themselves outside of the game, I think I wouldn't see a bunch of "I've never done this fight, please explain mechanics" in almost every trial run I do. :P (It's especially true in SoF for some reason) And no I'm not trying to change the topic about fight mechanics, just that there're plenty of players who don't bother researching their job outside of the game.


    Keep in mind I'm not saying there needs to be a tutorial that explains every little thing, just a basic one so people have a better idea of how to play their job.

    Or at the very least let us have an in-game parser so we can monitor our DPS and others around us. Not only will it be beneficial for learning better DPS but in DPS check fights we can see who isn't pulling their weight and it can be an eye opener for players who truly think they are doing well.
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    Draciella Karla
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    If we can rally this, i think it would be a huge help to df anything
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    Whispering Crow
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    Balmung
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    Black Mage Lv 83
    They tell you to play better, put in dps checks everywhere, but ban the usage of parsers.

    How can one know what they're doing is any better or worse than if they did it another way, without some way to measure?
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    Rynka Shadowrane
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    Cactuar
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    Monk Lv 80
    There are times when I think having a XIV successor of Maat wouldn't be a bad idea. Better implemented of course. Someone who follows your progression and helps train you in specific conditions, eventually leading up to a very solid fight that encompasses all that you learn.
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    Memenu Menu
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    Siren
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    Pugilist Lv 60
    Let the casuals be casuals and let the good player proceed.

    Everybody wins. The Casuals either git gud or git caryd and the good players get to enjoy their exclusive content.
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